Well, of course, that's what I started doing, but there seems to be a lot missing from this station if one subtracts what one can see from the construction:

Armour 5: is free with the hull
24 light guns is 48 SU
16 secondaries makes 128 SU
8 berths for FAC makes 80 SU
Total for what we can see: 256
Depending on how to make the minefield... Mine Factor 16 makes 80.
So I'm over.

With 30 hull that's 300 SU minimum, without adjusting for no thrust.

I was trying to make an A-G station for a three player scenario, but maybe it will be a crippled BB instead.

My scenario is a (somewhat improbable) three way "friendly fire" incident. Three navies allied against a fourth, that while dealing with a threat, accidently shoot their allies.

[IS multiplayer has one active and x reactive players -- should work]  :wink:

One more question, of a slightly different but related sort.

Page 8 (thank you, murt) has torpedo values from d4 to d12 and damage values from x1 to x5. Are these values related in any fashion?
Or, can you mix and match?

I see that the battleship HMES Bantam carries d8(x4) torpedoes, and the Beta-class destroyer has d6(x2) torpedoes. Is the limiting  factor for torpedoes for all ship classes solely a function of cost?

Instead of the Beta-class DD carrying 3/d6(x2) torpedoes for a cost of 7.2 SU, could it carry 1/d10(x3) torpedo (cost = 6 SU)?

Most appreciated!

Michael.

Now back to the actual thread:

I don't know what it is with this guy. If I don't explicitly say you cannot do this, his brain thinks "I can do this". For my own play, I understand the rules as are and for some of my friends the spirit of the rules is self-explanatory. But for this one guy, I need a black and white clarification of the rules. For every single game we play!

I haven't introduced IS to the group yet; I am mentally preparing. Mentally  recalling the annoying days of playing Star Fleet Battles against some broken unbalanced ships this fellow has dredged up from some unofficial website, despite asking all players to follow certain guidelines when choosing ships. He's hardwired to find loopholes.

I like the ruleset for IS. I don't think it can be corrupted even by this gentleman I play against. But clarity shall be my avatar.

Ah ha, thank you!

My insomnia ends  :shock:

Trying again,

What scale are the ships as depicted on the counters?

Measuring, say, the Tai Zhou, since it's in front of me, I get 1.125 inches.

Looking in the book, I see the Tai Zhou is 482' or 5784" long.

I divide 5784 by 1.125 I get, I think, 1/5150 scale.

I grab another counter, the Hodaka.

Length as depicted on counter: 1.5"

Length of actual ship: 544' or 6528"

Divide 6528 by 1.5 gets 1/4350 scale.

So, now, I am left with two possible answers:

1) my math is wrong and the ships as depicted in the counters are the same scale, whatever scale that is, or

2) the ships as depicted on the counters are not the same scale.

Please enlighten me.

Well, yes, class notes are certainly just fluff.

"This is the design philosophy behind this ship"
"These are the priorities of this particular country about ship design, and this is why their ships are different from other countries"

I can do this sort of thing myself, I suppose by studying the ship records, but I suppose I was hoping for some official background on ship design. Say, something like:

The British fleets favour speed over armourment [armorment...I'm sure that's spelled wrong].

or,

The Russians sure do love mines.

That way, if I decide to design my own ships to add to the existing fleets, I have some core design philosophy to guide my imagination, elsewise any design could be used with any country's ethernavy.

Slightly different subject:

I haven't finished reading the rulebooks, so maybe this is in there:

Is there a practical limit for guns on ships?

I know Hull is 35, and Armour is 5, and Thrust 10, but what of Primaries, Secondaries, and Light guns?

I fear unleashing the ship design stuff on my game group without having this information!  :shock: