I don't know about the pre-dreadnought.  That might be pretty tough in terms of availability.  Almost certainly going to be pretty expensive.

As far as WWI though, I've got an excellent setup I've been very happy with, in all three categories you mention.

I'm using 1/3000 scale Skytrex/Davco minis.  I've been EXTREMELY happy with them.  The problem with 1/6000 is that from "gaming distance" they just look like blobs of metal on the table. . .  IMO, you might as well use counters at this point.

You can get these ships from here:

http://www.warweb.com/skytrex-miniature … _1676.html

1/3000 is a nice combination of fairly small  to maximize your play surface, while large enough that the ships actually look like ships on the table.  Here's a couple pics of how mine turned out:

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We mounted them all on laser-cut 3"x1" bases from here:  ($9.99 for 100 bases. . . I had to order 2 bags.    )

http://www.litkoaero.com/

Printed labels on the computer. . . and play on a 3" hex mat from here:

http://www.hotzmats.com/

As you can see, the result is excellent.  We've been EXTREMELY happy with how its turned out and I can't recommend it highly enough.

Overloading weapons is a mechanic and it shouldn't be included in Trekmada.

I'm not looking for the game to deliver "modern era" trek ships, I understand the limits of the license.  However, given the stats for a Constitution Class cruiser, it should be easy to extrapolate what an Enterprise Class battlecruiser would look like if I were so inclined.

I agree with the other poster that SFB has a lot of stuff in it that really doesn't fit in the star trek universe themewise.  Fighters anyone?

As far as "history" goes. . . that's what I have Grand Fleets for.  From trekmada all I'm looking for is a fast paced, fun starship combat game.

Again, the target market for trekmada are the people who DON'T play SFB.

See I don't agree with that at all. . . not having played more than a couple demo games of SFB/Fed Com, I really don't have an idea of how the various races ships compare and contrast to one another. . .

But having watched a TON of Star Trek, I would have thought:

Klingons - Tough and hit hard, but slow
Feds - Fast, well protected, but don't hit very hard
Romulans - Slow, moderately protected, hit very hard, but stealthy

As far as Kzinti go - I have no opinion on them whatsoever.  The only time I ever saw them was one episode of the animated series and in that we never learned anything about their ship's combat capabilities.

As far as drones go, I haven't seen a single "drone" in any episode, animated episode, or movie.  Unless you count "Nomad" as a drone from the original series -- but I don't really think he qualifies.

Thus, my point, you guys are trying to make this into another version of SFB, not Trekmada.  Fortunately, it sounds like that's not the approach mj12 is taking.

As far as "the point" of getting a liscence -- the point is to allow for some cross pollination of marketing thus benefitting both systems by saying "if you like this game -- here's a different take on it -- see if you like it too.

The license also gives those of us who are Starmada players some "official" star trek designs instead of constantly having to make our own.  Meaning that people from different places can meet and play trekmada without having to use one person or the other's designs in advance. 

Trekmada needs to be internally consistent with itself, but it doesn't have to have anything to do with SFB at all.

I don't want Trekmada to play ANYTHING like SFB.  As I understand it, MJ12 is liscensing the setting. . . NOT the mechanics.  There's no reason in the world that SFB rules/conventions should be imported into Trekmada.

I will buy Trekmada if it plays like Starmada.  I won't buy it if it "plays" like SFB.  I think chasing after the SFB players is a fools errand.  People who like that system aren't the target market for a rules light system like Starmada, unless they just happen to enjoy both styles of play. . . in which case they'll be willing to play Starmada as it is, instead of some quasi SFB hybrid.

Keep your SFB peanut butter out of my Starmada chocolate!

***** Shields *****

I like the idea of the independently degradable shield ratings even more than I like the screens.

. . . oh BTW. . .

I'd love to see the scenarios you come up with!

I agree with the other poster. . .

You guys are trying to turn Starmada into SFB.  There is absolutely no reason to layer on all those extra rules, or have things move at SFB speeds, or run in phases or any of it. 

If you want to play SFB, play SFB.  The Starmada version should be very rules light pretty much using the existing rules as they stand today, just with some new ship designs.

Haven't heard anything on this in a while. . . will we be getting a GF supplement?

I'm guessing you found my house rules in the files section?  Any comments?  I know there's not a HUGE amount to them. . . but I don't really feel the game needs a huge amount of house rules.

I'm attending GenCon Indy.

For Grand Fleets we went with a hex mat with 3" hexes and 1/3000 scale ships which seemed to work perfectly.

If you've already got your 1/2400 scale ships, you can always order hexed game mats from here:

http://www.hotzmats.com/index.html

with hexes upto 5" across to reduce/eliminate overlap.