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Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

cricket wrote:

Got it.

Yeah, off the top of my head, I'm a bit stumped on how to work that out in ship construction...

    I was trying to find a way to give the Faceted Shields of an existing ship variable KEB values without changing it's Combat Rating. I do not think that this would be a popular option as it slightly slows game play to note on the Data Card whether you are maximizing the Kinetic, Energy, or Ballistic Rating of a given Facet (i.e: F:K, FP: E, FS: B, AP: E, AS: B, A: K). If you counted Kinetic as the default mode, then it would be only be necessary to note whether a given Facet had been changed to Energy or Ballistic.

      As to giving a ship Faceted Shields with Fixed KEB Ratings, I think using a combination of existing Starmada AE rules for Faceted Shields and those given for KEB shields in the VBAM/Starmada books would accomodate that easily enough. It would, unfortunately, make for a cluttered looking Data Card.

        As you will have noticed, I edited my original posting to make my meaning clearer.

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        Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

        Generic (but frequently, Rebel Alliance) Corellian CR 90 Corvette (249 CR). All systems are Tl +4 (*.5 SU). The original design was attributed to Ben Rubery.

          Hull (1, 3, 5): 7 6 5 4* 3  2 1.

            Engines (1, 2): 3 3 3 2 2  1 1.

              Shields (3, 4): 5 5 4 3 3  2 1.

                Facets: F: 1, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 0.

                  Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: Z.

                    Battery Z: Dual Light Turbolasers: 1-2/3-4/5-6, 4/4+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                      [ABC] [ABD] [AB] [HJ] [IK] [JKL]

                        Special Equipment: Cargo (300); Carrier (120 Capacity; Launch: 2, Recover: 1); Critical Hit Save (5+); Damage Control (2 dice); Hyperdrive; Rebel Militia (12). This has 80 extra Space Units for auxilliary services. It's bays carry 2 Flights of Lamda class Shuttles.

                          VBAM Statistics:

                            Cost: 10, Maintenance: 3/2 ~ 2, Defensive Value: 5, Anti-Ship: 7, Anti-Fighter: 4, Command Rating: 5, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 2; Hyperdrive.

                              This is also called a Blockade Runner. I am substituting the term Rebel Militia for the term Marines in this conversion.

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                              Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

                              I am curious as to where the Carrier rating for the Correllian Corvette has come from.

                              It doesn't carry fighters in the films (other than Obi-wan's that it takes into what is probably a general purpose shuttle bay) and the only ones in the Expanded Universe novels that carry fighters are notes as being fairly major conversions.

                              Also, it appears that some shots from the Star Destroyer at the start of Episode IV are impacting on shields so shouldn't this have an Aft facet of 1 (Shields 6) to represent this?

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                              Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

                              RobinStirzaker wrote:

                              by RobinStirzaker on 15 Dec 2010 12:05
                              I am curious as to where the Carrier rating for the Correllian Corvette has come from.

                                It has two flights of Lambda class shuttles. This value is too high, but Starmada represents full flights better than it does fractional flights. I could calculate the Capacity for a Flight that has only two Shuttles, but doing so for every fractional value of a flight seems tedious.Giving the corvette a few more boarding parties seems to do little harm to the idea that it is a freighter being used as a warship.

                                  RobinStirzaker wrote:

                                  Also, it appears that some shots from the Star Destroyer at the start of Episode IV are impacting on shields so shouldn't this have an Aft facet of 1 (Shields 6) to represent this?

                                    You are surely right, but the Babylon 5 Wars SCS that I was converting is very short on shields. They will plainly not go all the way around. If you like, you could put the Faceted Shield that is in the Forward (G) Arc into the Rear (L) Arc. After all, Faceted Shields are only supposed to have fixed values  during Tactical Combat. I see no reason why they could not be adjusted between Strategic Turns.

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                                    Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

                                    My choice of Technical Level for these conversions makes it impossible for me to keep a reasonable approximation of the full complement of weapons, give the ship twice the normal range in Hyperspace, and give the ship Atmospheric Capability (at least it does with the House Rules that I am using for these conversions. Someone with more liberal House Rules, or who chooses a much higher Technical Level, may succeed in doing so). This is the Version with full weapons and Range: 2 Hyperdrive.

                                      Galactic Empire Victory class Type I Star Destroyer (1, 217 CR). All systems are TL 0 (*1 SU).

                                        Hull (1, 3, 5): 20 19 18 17 16*  15 14 13 12 11*  10 9 8 7 6*  5 4 3 2 1.

                                          Engines (1, 2): 2 2 2 2 2  2 2 2 2 2   1 1 1 1 1  1 1 1 1 1.

                                            Shields (3, 4): 18 18 17 16 15  14 13 12 11 10  9 9 8 7 6  5 4 3 2 1.

                                              Facets: F: 3, FP: 3, FS: 3, AP: 3, AS: 3, A: 3.

                                                Weapons (5, 6): 1: X, 2: X, 3: Y, 4: Y, 5: Z, 6: Z.

                                                  Batttery X: Assault Concussion Launchers: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 1/4+/2/1, Slow-Firing; Variable Damage.

                                                    [ABC] [ABD] [AC] [BD] [CEF] [DEF]

                                                      Battery Y: Twin Turbolasers: 1-5/6-10/---, 1/5+/1/2, Carronade; Increased Hits.

                                                        [ABC] [ABD] [ACE] [BDF] [CE] [DF]

                                                            Battery Z: Quad Laser Turrets: 1/2/3, 2/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                                                              [AC] [BD] [HJ] [IK] [CE] [DF]

                                                                Special Equipment: Cargo (100); Carrier (658: Launch: 4, Recover: 2); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Hyperdrive (4: Hyper Range: 2); Stormtroopers (18). This has 41 Space Units left for auxilliary services. Its bays carry 4 Flights of T.I.E. Fighters and 3 Lambda class shuttles.

                                                                  VBAM Statistics:

                                                                    Cost: 21, Maintenance: 11/3 ~ 4, Defensive Value: 15, Anti-Ship: 13, Anti-Fighter: 6, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 7, Hyperdrive (4).

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                                                                    Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

                                                                    Rebel Alliance Assault Frigate (517 CR). All systems are TL 0 (*1 SU).

                                                                      Hull (1, 3, 5): 15 14 13 12 11*  10 9 8 7 6*  5 4 3 2 1.

                                                                        Engines (1, 2): 4 4 4 4 3  3 3 3 2 2  2 2 1 1 1.

                                                                          Shields (3, 4): 17 16 15 14 13  12 11 10 8 7  6 5 4 3 2.

                                                                            Facets: F: 3. FP: 3, FS: 3, AP: 3, AS: 3, A: 2.

                                                                              Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: ---.

                                                                                Battery Y: Twin Turbolasers: 1-4/5-8/---, 1/4+/1/2, Carronade; Increased Hits.

                                                                                  [ABC] [ABD] [AC] [BD] [CE] [DF]

                                                                                    Battery Z: Quad Laser Turrets: 1/2/3, 4/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                                                                                      [ABC] [ABD] [CE] [DF]

                                                                                        Special Equipment: Carrier (120: Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Hyperdrive; Rebel Militia (12). This has 39 Space Units for auxilliary services. Its bays usually carry 2 Lamda class Shuttles.

                                                                                          VBAM Statistics:

                                                                                            Cost: 14, Maintenance: 17/6 ~ 3, Defensive Value: 11, Anti-Ship: 12, Anti-Fighter: 6, Command Rating: 7, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 2; Hyperdrive.

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                                                                                            Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

                                                                                            I am giving two versions of this ship. My choice of Tech Level makes it impossible to get both the quadruple Interdiction Field generators and the required Level of Shields into the same ship.

                                                                                              I had to go back to the Starmada Compedium to find the rules for Interdiction Fields and found them slightly unsatisfactory. Therefore, I will modify them a bit (Interdictors in this background have a limited Range) and count them as House Rules for this conversion.

                                                                                                An Interdictor Field Imposes a dice roll cap on rolls for using a Hyperdrive. The dice roll cap is treated as a result of zero for purposes of the cumulative roll needed to use a Hyperdrive (though a roll of double 6 still stalls the Hyperdrive.

                                                                                                  Range:.....1.....2-4.....5-9.....10-16.....17-25

                                                                                                    Hull Size:

                                                                                                      1-3.........6

                                                                                                        4-8.........5.......6

                                                                                                          9-15.......4........5......6

                                                                                                            16-24......3.......4.......5........6

                                                                                                              25+........2.......3.......4.........5.........6

                                                                                                                Four Interdictor generators on the same Hull would not increase the Level of Interdiction, but it would double the Range.

                                                                                                                  Galactic Empire Interdictor class Cruiser (997 CR). All systems are TL 0 (*1 SU). This is the version with the proper Shields, but with only one Interdiction Gravity field Generator.

                                                                                                                    Hull (1, 3, 5): 13 12 11 10 9* 8 7 6 5 4*  3 2 1.

                                                                                                                      Engines (1, 2): 3 3 3 3 3  2 2 2 2 1  1 1 1.

                                                                                                                        Shields (3, 4): 15 14 13 12 11  10 9 7 6 5  4 3 2.

                                                                                                                          Facets: F: 3, FP: 3, FS: 3, AP; 2, AS: 2, A: 1.

                                                                                                                            Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: ---.

                                                                                                                              Battery Y: Forward Quad Lasers: 1/2/3, 2/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                                                                                                                                [AB] [ABC] [ABD] [AC] [BD]

                                                                                                                                  Battery Z: Aft Quad Lasers: 1/2/3, 2/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                                                                                                                                    [AC] [BD] [HJ] [IK] [CE] [DF]

                                                                                                                                      Special Equipment: Cargo(100); Carrier (752: Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Hyperdrive; Interdictor (1: Range: 9); Stormtroopers (24). This has 33 Space Units for auxilliary services. It's bays are supposed to hold 4 Fighter Flights, 3 Stormtrooper Transports, and 1 Flight of Lambda class Shuttles, but I based the bay size on 8 Flights of T.I.E. Fighters.

                                                                                                                                        VBAM Statistics:

                                                                                                                                          Cost: 18, Maintenance: 5/2 ~ 3, Defensive Value: 11, Anti-Ship: 6, Anti-Fighter: 4, Command Rating: 7, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 8; Hyperdrive.

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                                                                                                                                          Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

                                                                                                                                          Galactic Empire Interdictor class Cruiser (1, 161 CR). All systems are TL 0 (* 1 SU). This version has four Interdiction Gravity Generators, but I had to reduce all Shield Facets by one Level to make them fit. It is also much too large, an Interdictor is supposed to be smaller than a Victory.

                                                                                                                                            Hull (1, 3, 5): 42 41 40 39 38  37 36 35 34* 33  32 31 30 29 28  27 26 25* 24 23  22 21 20 19 18  17 16* 15 14 13  12 11 10 9 8  7* 6 5 4 3  2 1.

                                                                                                                                              Engines (1, 2): 3 3 3 3 3  3 3 3 3 3  3 3 3 3 2  2 2 2 2 2  2 2 2 2 2  2 2 2 1 1  1 1 1 1 1  1 1 1 1 1  1 1.

                                                                                                                                                Shields (3, 4): 9 9 9 9 9  8 8 8 8 8  7 7 7 7 6  6 6 6 6 5  5 5 5 5 4  4 4 4 3 3  3 3 3 2 2  2 2 2 1 1  1 1.

                                                                                                                                                  Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 1.

                                                                                                                                                    Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Z, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

                                                                                                                                                      Battery Y: Forward Quad Lasers: 1/2/3, 2/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                                                                                                                                                        [AB] [ABC] [ABD] [AC] [BD]

                                                                                                                                                          Battery Z: Aft Quad Lasers: 1/2/3, 2/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                                                                                                                                                            [AC] [BD] [HJ] [IK] [CE] [DF]

                                                                                                                                                              Special Equipment: Cargo (200); Carrier (752; Launch: 5, Recover: 3); Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (5 dice); Hyperdrive; Interdictor (4: Range: 50); Stormtroopers (24). This has only 11 Space Units left for auxilliary services.

                                                                                                                                                                VBAM Statistics:

                                                                                                                                                                  Cost: 22, Maintenance: 22/3 ~ 8, Defensive Value: 25, Anti-Ship: 6, Anti-Fighter: 4, Command Rating: 12, Command Cost: 5, Basing: 8, Hyperdrive.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

                                                                                                                                                                  I found more than one ship design sheet for the same ship. Both of these were on Ben Rubery's website. While one seems to be a revision of the other, they are both worth conversion to Starmada AE. These are to be considered commercially available vessels and likely to be used by any faction.

                                                                                                                                                                    Corellian Light Gunship (112 CR). All systems are TL 0 (*1 SU).

                                                                                                                                                                      Hull (1, 3, 5): 6 5 4* 3 2  1.

                                                                                                                                                                        Engines (1, 2): 7 6 5 4 3  2.

                                                                                                                                                                          Shields (3, 4): 3 3 2 2 1 1.

                                                                                                                                                                            Facets: F: 1, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 0, AS: 0, A: 0.

                                                                                                                                                                              Weapons (%, 6): 1: X, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: ---.

                                                                                                                                                                                Battery X: Proton Torpedo Tube (Ballistic): 1-8/9-16/17-24, 1/5+/1/1, Variable Rate Of Fire.

                                                                                                                                                                                  [AB]

                                                                                                                                                                                    Battery Y: Ranged Dual Light Turbolaser (Energy): 1-3/4-6/7-9, 2/4+/1/1, Anti-Fighter; Double Damage.

                                                                                                                                                                                      [ABC] [ABD]

                                                                                                                                                                                        Battery Z: Ranged Dual laser Turret (Energy): 1-2/3-4/5-6, 4/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                                                                                                                                                                                          [ACE] [BDF]

                                                                                                                                                                                            Special Equipment: Cargo (70); Critical Hit Save (5+); Damage Control (2 dice); Hyperdrive. This has only 2 Space Units left.

                                                                                                                                                                                              VBAM Statistics: Cost: 8, Maintenance: 4/3 ~ 2, Defensive Value: 4, Anti-Ship: 8, Anti-Fighter: 2, Command Rating: 4, Command Cost; 3; Hyperdrive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Correllian Heavy Gunship (239 CR). All systems are TL 0 (*1 SU).

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hull (1, 3, 5): 12 11 10 9* 8  7 6 5* 4 3  2 1.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Engines (1, 2): 4 4 4 3 3  3 2 2 2 1  1 1.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Shields (3, 4): 6 6 5 5 4  4 3 3 2 2  1 1.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Facets: F: 1, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 1.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Weapons (5, 6): 1: X, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: ---, 6: ---.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Battery X: Assault Concussion Launcher (Ballistic): 1-7/8-14/15-21, 1/4+/2/1, Variable Rate Of Fire.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                [AB] [EF]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Battery Y: Dual Ranged Turbolasers (Energy): 1-8/9-16/---, 2/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [ABC] [ABD] [ABC] [ABD]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Battery Z: Ranged Laser Turrets (Energy): 1-2/3-4/5-6, 2/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [ACE] [BDF]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Special Equipment: Cargo (110); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Hyperdrive (4: Hyper Range: 2). This has 7 Space Units for auxilliary services.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            VBAM Statistics:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Cost: 16, Maintenance: 10/3 ~ 4, Defensive Value: 7, Anti-Ship: 11, Anti-Fighter: 2, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3; Hyperdrive (4).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Any Star Wars Ships Out There?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This should be counted as a generic unit that might have survived to be part of any faction's Fleet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Old Republic Dreadnought Cruiser (308 CR). All systems are TL 0 (*1 SU).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hull (1, 3, 5): 13 12 11 10 9*  8 7 6 5 4*  3 2 1.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Engines (1, 2): 4 4 4 4 3  3 3 2 2 2  1 1 1.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Shields (3, 4): 13 12 11 10 9  8 7 6 5 4  3 2 1.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Facets: F; 3, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: Z.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Battery Y: Turbolaser (Energy): 1-5/6-10/---, 2/4+/1/2, Carronade; Anti-Fighter.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [ABC] [ABD] [CE] [DF] [CE] [DF]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Battery Z: Dual Laser Turrets (Energy): 1/2/3, 3/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [AC] [BD] [AC] [BD] [GHi] [JKL]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Special Equipment: Armor Plating; Cargo (130); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Hyperdrive (4: Hyper Range: 2). This has 9 Space Units left.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      VBAM Statistics:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Cost: 17, Maintenance: 7/2 ~ 4, Defensive Value: 9, Anti-Ship: 9, Anti-Fighter: 6, Command Rating: 7, Command Cosy: 3; Hyperdrive (4).