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2010-07-23 21:14:54

Eff Reliant class Mark III Cruiser (689 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 16 15 14 13*12 11 10 9*8 7 6 5*4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 7 7 7 6 6 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 2 2 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 15 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 3, FP: 3, FS: 3, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Z, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Y: FH-11(Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-8/9-16/17-24, 2,3+/2/5.

Co-Axial B: 1-8/9-16/17-24, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [ABIK]

Battery Z: FP-4 (Ballistic): 1-8/9-16/---, 1/3+/4/5, Carronade.

[AB] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (400); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice) ; Marines (5); Passengers (80); Shuttles (4: 32 Capacity); Teleports (5); Warp Drive. This has 26 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 15, Maintenance: 5, Defensive Value: 11, Anti-Ship: 22, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 4; Warp Drive.

What signifigance do Cargo and Passengers have? I have often thought that they must have been intending to make a Strategic game if the Tactical one sold well enough. The listing for passengers would have been quite useful in scenarios where a Colony is to be established, or in a scenario where a colony is to be evacuated (probably under enemy fire). The Cargo listing could have determined the Strategic Range (400 Cargo/16 Hull = 25 Strategic Turns),Full System Repairs (at 10 Cargo per system repaired per Strategic Turn), and Cargo delivered for scenario purposes. It might have been interesting.

2010-07-23 19:25:13

Eff Anton class Mark II Cruiser (318 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 9 8 7*6 5 4*3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 6 6 5 4 4 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 11 10 9 8 7 5 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4:---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Z: FH-3 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 2/3+/1/5.

Co-Axial B: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 2/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [ABIK]

Special Equipment: Cargo (300); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Marines (5); passengers (40); Shuttles (4: 32 Capacity); Teleports (5); Warp Drive. This has 111 extra Space Units for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 11, Maintenance: 4, Defensive Value: 6, Anti-Ship: 14, Anti- Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 4; Warp Drive.

2010-07-22 22:22:57

Eff Andor class Mark II Cruiser (519 CR) All systems are TL+4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 12 11 10 9* 8 7 6 5* 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 7 7 6 6 5 5 4 3 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 16 15 14 12 11 10 8 7 6 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 3, FP: 3, FS: 3, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 3.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: X, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6:---.

Battery X: FH-3 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-6/7-12/13-18, 2/3+/2/4.

Co-Axial B: 1-6/7-12/13-18, 2/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[AB]

Battery Y: FP-7 (Ballistic): 1-8/9-16/---, 1/3+/2/4, Carronade.

[AB] [AB] [AB] [AB]

Battery Z: FP-7 (Ballistic): 1-8/9-16/---, 1/3+/2/4, Carronade.

[HJ] [IK] [EF] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (300); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Marines (7); Passengers (40); Shuttles (6: 48 Capacity); Teleports (7); Warp Drive. This has 139 Space Units remaining for Auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics: Cost: 14, Maintenance: 5, Defensive Value: 9, Anti-Ship: 18, Anti-Fighter: 2, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 6; Gunship; Warp Drive.

2010-07-22 21:55:19

There is one ambiguity and one possible error in the published statistics for the next ship. Therefore, I am giving you two versions and you may choose to use whichever you find most correct.

Version One:Eff Scorpio class Mark I Corvette (58 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 12 6.

Shields (3, 4): 11 6.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: Z.

Battery Y: FH-1 (Energy): 1-4/5-8/---, 2/3+/1/2, Carronade.

[ABHIJK]

Battery Z: FP-3 (Ballistic): 1-2/3-4/5-6, 1/3+/2/3.

[AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (10); Landing Capability (Streamlined); Damage Control (1 die); Marines (1); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has only 8 extra Space Units for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 5, Maintenance: 1/2, Defensive Value:3, Anti-Ship: 6, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 2, Command Cost: 2; Landing Capability; warp drive.

Version Two: Eff Scorpio class Mark I Corvette (51 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 9 5.

Shields (3, 4): 8 4.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: Z.

Battery Y: FH-1 (Energy): 1-4/5-8/---, 2/3+/1/2, Carronade.

[ABHIJK]

Battery Z: FP-3 (Ballistic): 1-2/3-4/5-6, 1/3+/2/3.

[AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (10); Landing Capability (Streamlined); Damage Control (1 die); Marines (1); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has 41 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 5, Maintenance: 1/2, Defensive Value: 2, Anti-Ship: 6, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 2, Command Cost: 2; Landing Capability; Warp Drive.

I should mention that I am calculating the VBAM Maintenance by the optional method of dividing Hull by 6, rather than by the table in the book. I do this because I cannot figure out how to extend the table in the book to Hull values larger than 20.

2010-07-21 22:10:05

Eff Excelsior class Mark I Battleship (1444 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull 91, 3, 5): 25 24 23 22 21* 20 19 18 17 16* 15 14 13 12 11* 10 9 8 7 6* 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 9 9 9 8 8 8 7 7 7 6 6 6 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 3 2 2 2 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 21 21 20 19 18 17 16 16 15 14 13 12 11 11 10 9 8 7 6 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 5, FP: 4, FS: 4, AP: 3, AS: 3, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: X, 2: Y, 3: Z, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery X: FH-11 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-8/9-16/17-24, 2/3+/2/5.

Co-Axial B: 1-8/9-16/17-24, 2/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [AB] [ABIK] [EF]

Battery Y: FH-5 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-8/9-16/---, 2/3+/1/3, Carronade.

Co-Axial B: 1-8/9-16/---, 2/3+/1/1, Carronade; Range-Based Damage.

[HJ] [HJ] [IK] [IK]

Battery Z: FP-4 (Ballistic):1-8/9-16/---, 1/3+/4/5, Carronade.

[AB] [AB] [EF] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (550); Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (5 dice); Marines (7); Passengers (40); Shuttles (20: 160 Capacity); Teleports (7); Warp Drive. There are 36 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 21, Maintenance: 7, Defensive Value 18, Anti-Ship: 25, Anti-Fighter: 7, Command Rating: 10, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 20; Warp Drive.

For those of you who are using the House Rule that says that a ship this size should be at +1 To-Hit for any enemy firing at it, the Combat rating should be reduced to 1, 266 CR, its VBAM Cost to 20, and its VBAM Defensive Value to 17.

2010-07-21 21:37:18

MajorTom wrote:

I must not be understanding right. If landing equipment takes the same amount of space, why would anyone bother with them instead of just getting the engines?

I am trying to convert a specific background here with the number of Engines already defined. While I agree that someone designing from scratch would be better off taking more Engines, I did not have this option and I made the House rule to change as little as possible. In most cases (except for those ships that are only one or two Engines short of having enough for Landing Capability), the Anti-Gravity Landing option is the more economical.

In any case, since it is only a House rule, if you wish to use it in your designs, you may reduce the Space Units required by whatever percentage you like. As this feature has no tactical consequences in Starmada, it makes no practical difference to game balance.

2010-07-20 22:32:22

I find that I shall have to add another House rule to this conversion. In analogy to the way that VBAM/ Starmada treats the trait: Landing Capability, I am considering ships with more Engines than Hull to have Landing Capability as long as they also have Streamlining (10 % of Hull SU*TL Modifier, no effect on either DRAT or ORAT). For ships that have Engines equal to or less than Hull, they have Landing Capability if they have Landing Equipment (SU equal to that of the extra Engines which would be needed to give the ship more Engines than Hull) and are Streamlined, or if they have Anti-Gravity Landing (25 % of Hull SU*TL Modifer, no effect on either DRAT or ORAT)and are Streamlined.

As an example:

Oh Swift Solaria Slaver (288 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 10 9 8 7*6 5 4 3*2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 4 4 4 3 3 2 2 2 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Y: OD-4 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-6/7-12/13-18, 1/3+/1/5.

Co-Axial B: 1-6/7-12/13-18, 1/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [ABIK] [HJ] [IK]

Battery Z: OD-5 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-10/11-20/---, 1/3+/2/3, Carronade.

Co-Axial B: 1-10/11-20/---, 1/3+/1/1, Carronade; Range-Based Damage.

[EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (430); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Landing Capability (Anti-Gravity Landing & Streamlined); Marines (7); Shuttles (2: 16 Capacity); Teleports (7); Warp Drive. This has 85 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 12, Maintenance: 2, Defensive Value: 7, Anti-Ship: 13, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 5, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 2; Landing Capability; Warp Drive.

2010-07-15 19:41:50

Here is more of the same, only Cruiser-sized.

Oh Wanderer class Model A blockade Runner (439 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 12 11 10 9* 8 7 6 5* 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 9 9 8 7 6 6 5 4 3 3 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 3, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Y: OD-4 (Energy): 1-6/7-12/13-18, 1/3+/2/4.

[ABHIJK] [ABHIJK] [EFHIJK] [EFHIJK]

Battery Z: FP-1 (Ballistic): 1-4/4-8/9-12, 1/3+/2/5.

[AB] [AB] [EF] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (180); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Marines (2); Passengers (10); Shuttles (2: 16 Capacity; Launch: 2, Recover: 1); Teleports (2); Warp Drive. This has 73 extra Space Units for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 13, Maintenance: 7/3 ~ 3, Defensive Value: 8, Anti-Ship: 18, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 2; Warp Drive.

2010-07-14 17:13:23

This is a somewhat peculiar cargo vessel. It has little cargo space for its' size, but it has almost the firepower of a Destroyer. Some people would accuse them of being pirates.

Oh Lightning Model B-6 Blockade Runner (229 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 6 5 4*3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 5 5 4 3 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 10 9 7 5 4 2.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AS: 1, AP: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: Z.

Battery Z: OD-3:

Coax A: 1-5/6-10/11-15, 1/3+/1/5.

Coax B: 1-5/6-10/11-15, 1/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHIJK] [ABHIJK] [ABHIJK] [HJ] [IK] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (40); Critical Hit Save (5+); Damage Control (2 dice); Marines (3); Passengers (10); Shuttles (2: 16 Capacity; Launch: 2, Recover: 1); Teleports (3); Warp Drive. This has 24 Space Units left for auxillary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 10, Maintenance: 3/2 ~ 2, Defensive Value: 5, Anti-Ship: 13, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 4, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 2; Gunship; Warp Drive.

2010-07-14 14:45:10

madpax wrote:
For the D and Di, alas, nothing could really simulate them, as long as the missile launcher cannot be intercepted. I don't know how I could have represented D, except as a reduction of probability of hit.
If someone has an idea, don't hesitate

You could use the K/E/B shields from the VBAM/ Starmada books.It has been a long time since I played Starfire, but if I recall correctly, Shields only tripped against energy beams, Armor was a more general defense (and the only one that stopped damage from the kinetic weapons found in Alkeda Dawn), and D, Di, & Dx only served as defenses against ballistic weapons.

You could base the Energy value of the Shields on the number of Starfire shields, the Kinetic value of the Shields on the number of plates of Starfire armor, and the Ballistic value of the shields on the number and rating of D systems present.

As I do not have my Starfire information where I can find it quickly, I do not know whether dividing by 6 will always suffice to fit these values between 0 & 5. however, you could always try the proposed Extended Shield Ratings if you want to try converting the later modules.

2010-07-14 14:16:55

Gee SS-3 class Model A Destroyer (237 CR) All Systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 4 4 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 8 7 6 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: YZ, 2: YZ, 3: Y, 4: Y, 5: Y, 6: Y.

Battery Y: GBL-3 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-5/6-10/11-15, 3/4+/1/3.

Co-Axial B: 1-5/6-10/11-15, 3/4+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [ABIK]

Battery Z: GP-3 (Ballistic): 1-7/8-14/---, 1/3+/2/2, Carronade.

[AB] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (100); Critical Hit Save (5+); Damage Control (2 dice); Marines (5); Passengers (60); Shuttles (5: 40 Capacity; Launch: 2, Recover: 1); Teleports (5); Warp Drive. This has 75 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics

Cost: 11, Maintenance: 11/6 ~ 2, Defensive Value: 4, Anti-Ship: 12, Anti-Fighter: 1; Command Rating:4, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 5; Carrier; Gunship; Warp Drive.

2010-07-13 16:19:46

Gee MD-8 class Model C Cruiser (461 CR) All systems are Tl +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 9 8 7* 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3 ,4): 12 11 10 8 7 6 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: ---.

Battery Y: GBL-4 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-/6/7-12/13-18, 2/4+/1/5.

Co-Axial B: 1-6/7-12/13-18, 2/4+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [ABIK] [EFHJ] [EFIK]

Battery Z: GP-3 (Ballistic): 1-7/8-14/---, 1/3+/2/4, Carronade.

[AB] [AB] [AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (100); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Marines (10); Passengers (40); Shuttles (10: Capacity 80; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports (10); Warp Drive. This has no Space Units left at all.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 14, Maintenance: 5/2 ~ 3, Defensive Value: 7, Anti-Ship: 17, Anti-Fighter: 3, Command rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 10; Carrier; Gunship; Warp Drive.

I tried to differentiate these two ships as much as possible, but they came out almost the same anyway.

2010-07-13 15:50:37

Gee A-12 class Model D Cruiser (458 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull ( 1, 3, 5): 10 9 8 7* 6 5 4 3* 2 1.

Engines ( 1, 2): 4 4 4 3 3 2 2 2 1 1.

Shields ( 3, 4): 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 3, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Y: GBL-7 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-5/6-10/11-15, 2/3+/1/5.

Co-Axial B: 1-5/6-10/11-15, 2/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHIJK] [ABHIJK] [EFHIJK]

Battery Z: GP-2 (Ballistic): 1-5/6-10/11-15, 1/4+/2/5.

[AB] [AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (200), Critical Hit Save (4+), Damage Control (3 dice), Marines (10), Passengers (70), Shuttles ( 10: 80 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2), Teleports (10), Warp Drive. This has only 2 Space Units left and has no room for Auxilliary Systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 14, Maintenance: 15/6 ~ 3, Defensive Value: 7, Anti-Ship: 17, Anti- Fighter: 2, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 10; Carrier; Warp Drive.

2010-07-13 14:12:20

Thank you, Peter. These ships of yours would be very useful in a strategic campaign where such things as Cargo, Medical Bays, Passengers, and Science Bays could play an important role in scenarios.

Here are some ships never seen on any screen, though their occupants may have been.

Starting with a much more reasonable battleship:

Gee BH-2 class Model B Battleship (912 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 20 19 18 17 16* 15 14 13 12 11* 10 9 8 7 6* 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 6 6 6 6 5 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 12 12 11 11 10 9 9 8 8 7 6 6 5 5 4 3 3 2 2 1.

Facets: F: 3, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: ---.

Battery Y: GBL-8 ( Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 2/3+/2/3.

Co-Axial B: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 2/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [ABIK] [EFHJ] [EFIK]

Battery Z: GP-2 (Ballistic): 1-5/6-10/11-15, 1/4+/2/5.

[AB] [AB] [AB] [AB] [ABHJ] [ABIK] [EF] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (450); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Marines (15); Passengers (80); Shuttles (15: 120 Capacity; Launch: 4, Recover: 2); Teleports (15); Warp Drive. This has only 1 Space Unit left and has no room for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 20, Maintenance: 27/6 ~ 5, Defensive Value: 13, Anti-Ship: 24, Anti-Fighter: 4, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 15; Carrier; Warp Drive.

Next, I will give you some escorts for this one.

2010-07-09 19:07:27

Here is an excessively large battleship. It was taken from the above mentioned website and was attributed to Brad R. Torgersen.

Arr D'daridex class Type E Battleship (8,405 CR) All systems are at TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53* 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38* 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25* 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11* 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 30 30 30 29 29 28 28 27 27 26 26 25 25 25 24 24 23 23 22 22 21 21 20 20 20 19 19 18 18 17 17 16 16 15 15 15 14 14 13 13 12 12 11 11 10 10 10 9 9 8 8 7 7 6 6 5 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1 1.

Facets: F: 6, FP: 5, FS: 5, AP: 5, AS: 5, A: 4.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Z, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Y: RD-26 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 4/3+/3/3.

Co-Axial B: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 2/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[AB] [AB] [AB] [AB] [HJ] [IK] [EF]

Battery Z: RPT-2C (Ballistic): 1-5/6-10/11-15, 3/3+/3/3.

[ABHJ] [ABHJ] [ABHJ] [ABIK] [ABIK] [ABIK] [EFHIJK] [EFHIJK] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (750); Cloaking; Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (8 dice); Marines (50); Shuttles (18: 144 Capacity; Launch: 5, Recover: 3); Teleports (45); Warp Drive. This has only 1 Space Unit left and no room for auxilliary systems.

If you are using the House Rule that says that a ship this size should be at +2 To-Hit for any enemy firing at it, the Combat Rating should be reduced to 5, 697 CR.

VBAM Statistics

Cost: 51, Maintenance: 71/6 ~ 12, Defensive Value: 65, Anti-Ship:48, Anti-Fighter: 13, Command Rating: 16, Command Cost: 6, Basing: 18; Warp Drive.

It is on a par with some of the Renegade Legion: Leviathan Battleships that I have tried to convert. The problem with ships this large is that they need to be played against ships just as big, if one wants to conclude a game in any reasonable length of time.The notion of matching a ship this large against an entire fleet of other ships sounds fun in theory, but takes too long in practice.

This is the closest (and smallest) match that I could come to the original statistics. I only made slight adjustments to provide missing data.

I am tempted to stretch the Tech Level Option past its intended function and re-do this conversion at TL +8 (SU* .25). This would give it a more reasonable (and playable) size and leave some room for its intended number of engines. It has always been a peculiar feature of this particular game background that the bigger a ship is, the faster it travels.

I have edited the Shield statistics as I was using the wrong Divisor to calculate them (These things seem to happen when I do Math late at night).

2010-07-08 22:22:30

Here is the complex version of the Mine Escort.

Aquan Prime Remora class Mine Escort (85 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 8 4.

Shields (3, 4): 2 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Z: Point Defense (Energy): 1-2/3-4/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

2nd Mode: 1-2/3-4/5-6, 1/4+/1/1, Interceptor (Ballistic); Increased Hits; Repeating.

[ABCDEF]

Special Equipment: Damage Control (1 die); Datalink: Range 6 (3); Hyperdrive; Mines (5).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 6, Maintenance: 1/2, Defensive Value: 3, Anti-Ship: 6, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 2, Command Cost: 2.

2010-07-08 22:04:37

Arr S-11 (Bird of Prey) Type I Scout (204 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 5 4 3* 2 1.

Engines (1,2): 7 6 5 3 2.

Shields (3, 4): 8 7 5 4 2.

Facets: F:2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A:2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: YZ, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Y, 5: Y, 6: Z.

Battery Y: RB-7a (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-5/6-10/11-15, 2/3+/1/4.

Co-Axial B: 1-5/6-10/11-15, 2/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [ABIK]

Battery Z: RP-2 (Ballistic): 1-5/6-10/---, 1/3+/2/4, Carronade.

[AB]

Special Equipment: cargo (10); Cloaking Device; Critical hit Save (3+); Damage control ( 2 dice); Landing Capability (Streamlined); Marines (2); Teleports (2); Warpdrive. This has 62 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 11, Maintenance: 7/6 ~ 2, Defensive Value: 4, Anti-Ship: 10, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 4, Command Cost: 2; Cloaking Device; Gunship; Landing Capability; Warp Drive.

Too bad that this does not have enough room for a Plasma Torpedo, but it does have enough room for heavier shields.

2010-07-08 19:15:41

Arr V-8 (Bird of Prey) class Type I Cruiser (151 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 5 4 3* 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 4 4 3 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 9 8 6 4 2.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 1.

Weapons: 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Y: RB-4 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-3/4-6/7-9, 1/3+/2/3.

Co-Axial B: 1-3/4-6/7-9, 1/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHIJK]

Battery Z: RPL-2 (Energy/Ballistic): 1-5/6-10/11-15, 1/3+/1/2, Range-Based Damage; Increased Hits.

[AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (50); Cloaking Device; Critical Hit Save (5+); Damage Control (2 dice); Marines (2); Teleports (2); Warpdrive. This has 85 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 9, Maintenance: 7/6 ~ 2, Defensive Value: 4, Anti-Ship: 7, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 4, Command Cost: 2; Cloaking Device; Gunship; Warp Drive.

I based the RPL-2 on the damage statistics (trying to get a similar range of Damage values, based on Range & Dice Rolls), rather than trying a literal translation. I think that the ship came out disappointingly weak, but it is as close a conversion as I can make.

2010-07-06 22:22:59

Here is the more complex Aquan Prime Triton class Carrier (1843 CR) All systems are TL +4.

hull (1, 3, 5); 24 23 22 21 20 19* 18 17 16 15 14 13* 12 11 10 9 8 7* 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 7 7 7 7 6 6 6 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: TY, 2: UY, 3: VZ, 4: W, 5: X, 6: X.

Battery T: Primary Weapons (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-4/5-8/---, 2/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

Co-Axial B: ---/5-8/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Minimum Range; Repeating.

[HJ] [HJ] [IK] [IK]

Battery U: Primary Weapons (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-4/5-8/---, 2/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

Co-Axial B: ---/5-8/---, 1/4/1/1, Carronade; Minimum Range; Repeating.

[IK] [IK] [HJ] [HJ]

Battery V: Primary Weapons (Energy): 1-4/5-8/---, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

[AB] [AB] [AB] [AB]

Battery W: Primary Weapons (Energy): 1-4/5-8/---, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

[EF] [EF] [EF] [EF]

Battery X: Torpedoes (Ballistic): 1-4/5-8/9-12, 1/4+/1/1, Increased Hits; Repeating.

[ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF]

Battery Y: Point Defense (Energy): 1-2/3-4/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

2nd Mode: 1-2/3-4/5-6, 1/4+/1/1, Interceptor (Ballistic); Increased Hits; Repeating.

[ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF]

Battery Z: Interceptors (Energy): 1/2/3, 1/4+/1/1, Interceptor (Kinetic, Energy, & Ballistic); Increased Hits; Repeating.

[ABCDEF] [ABCDEF]

Special Equipment: Carrier (360); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Datalink: Range 6 (1); Hyperdrive; Marines (16); Mines (5); Teleports (2).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 25, Maintenance: 6, Defensive Value: 18, Anti-Ship: 29, Anti-Fighter: 9, Command Rating: 9, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 6.

I was going to put three Datalinks on this, but I decided that keeping the Hull Size down to 24 was more important.

2010-07-06 21:52:47

Kay D7-M (K't'inga: Bringer of Destruction) class Model M Cruiser (648 CR) All Systems are TL+4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 11 10 9 8* 7 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 7 7 6 6 5 4 4 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: ---.

Battery Y: KD-8 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 1/3+/2/4.

Co-Axial B: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 1/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [ABHJ] [ABIK] [ABIK]

Battery Z: KP-3 (Ballistic): 1-8/9-16/---, 1/3+/3/5, Carronade.

[AB] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (120); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Marines (44); Shuttles (5: 40 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports ( 25); Warp Drive. This has 38 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 15, Maintenance: 13/6 ~ 3, Defensive Value: 8, Anti-Ship: 20, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 5; Warp Drive.

Again, the next two ships could resemble one from a television show and one from a movie. Otherwise, they are very similar and I suspect that they were designed to be so in the source material.

2010-07-06 21:23:25

Kay D7-C (Bringer of Destiny) class Model C Cruiser (432 CR) All systems are TL+4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 9 8 7* 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 7 7 6 5 4 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 1.

Weapons: 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: ---.

Battery Z: KD-6 (Energy): 1-6/7-12/13-18, 1/3+/2/4.

[ABHJ] [ABHJ] [AB] [ABIK] [ABIK] [EF] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (120); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Marines (36); Shuttles(5: 40 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports (21); Warp Drive. This has 139 space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 14, Maintenance: 13/6~3, Defensive Value: 6, Anti-Ship: 15, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 5; Carrier; Warp Drive.

I was surprised by this one. It looks wimpy in the original game statistics, but it converts to something much tougher.

2010-07-05 22:33:11

Eff Enterprise class Mark I Cruiser (1133 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 20 19 18 17 16* 15 14 13 12 11* 10 9 8 7 6* 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 7 7 7 6 6 6 5 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 3 2 2 2 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 19 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 4, FP: 3, FS: 3, AP: 3, AS: 3, A: 3.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Z, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Y: FH-11 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-8/9-16/17-24, 2/3+/2/5.

Co-Axial B: 1-8/9-16/17-24, 2/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [AB] [ABIK]

Battery Z: FP-4 (Ballistic): 1-8/9-16/---, 1/3+/4/5.

[AB] [AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (450); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Marines (5); Passengers (60); Shuttles (12: 96 Capacity; Launch: 4, Recover: 2); Teleports (5); Warp Drive. This has 74 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 21, Maintenance: 25/6~5, Defensive Value: 14, Anti-Ship: 27, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 12; Carrier; Warp Drive.

The next two ships could also be said to resemble those in a television show, followed by those in a movie.

2010-07-05 20:43:38

Having become, for the present, tired of Firestorm Armada, I have decided to treat the FASA Ship Recognition Manuals as source material for conversion ( I may also try some things from this websitehttp://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/. I always liked the miniatures and will be glad to dust off those that I have to use in Starmada. It will require only small changes from standard Starmada rules.

First, Co-Axial Banks will have to be used to properly represent some weapons. Second, the intermediate Ranges 21 (ORAT*1.125) and 27 (ORAT*1.375) will be needed. Third, the proposed extension to Shield Values (Expanded Shield Ratings-Proposed Rule-Cricket-7 September 2009) will have to be in effect for some of the larger and more advanced ships. I found that to fit the Constitution & Enterprise classes into reasonably sized hulls, I had to use Tech Level +4 (SU * 0.5). The conversions needed a Shuttlecraft to serve as a Breacher (Standard Shuttlecraft: Size 1-Speed 6-Attack 5+-Defense 2 (8 Capacity)). I also decided to make the shields Faceted to suit the method that I was using to convert Ablative Shields into Probability Shields. It could be argued that I should have turned them into Screens and that this would be more consistant with the source material, but I liked Facets better. There is nothing to stop you from converting these to Screens except the small effort and calculation involved in making the conversion. I kept the Cargo & Passenger capacity because these looked to be useful for Strategic Campaigns.I am adding five percent to the SU of the engines to account for the Warp Drive and I am multiplying the DRAT by 1.2 as though it were a Hyperdrive.

The following two ships would be said by some to resemble the ship in a television series and to resemble the ship in a movie.

Eff Constitution class Mark II Cruiser (516 CR) All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 12 11 10 9* 8 7 6 5* 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 5 5 5 4 4 3 3 3 2 2 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 3, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Z, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Y: FH-3 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 2/3+/1/5.

Co-Axial B: 1-7/8-14/15-21, 2/3+/1/1, Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [AB] [ABIK]

Battery Z: FP-1 (Ballistic): 1-4/5-8/9-12, 1/3+/2/5.

[AB] [AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (390); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control ( 3 dice); Marines (5); Passengers (60); Shuttles (12: 96 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports (5); Warp Drive.This has 136 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics

Cost: 15, Maintenance: 2, Defensive Value: 8, Anti-Ship: 17, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 12; Carrier; Gunship; Warp Drive.

2010-06-29 22:13:07

Here is the more complex Aquan Prime Frigate.

Aquan Prime Piranha class Frigate (237 CR) all systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 7 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 11 10 9 8 7 5 4 2.

Shields ( 3, 4): 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: WZ, 2: X, 3: Y, 4: Y, 5: Y, 6: Y.

Battery X: Primary Weapons (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-4/5-6/---, 3/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

Co-Axial B: ---/5-8/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Minimum Range; Repeating.

[HJ] [IK]

Battery Y: Primary Weapons (Energy): 1-4/5-8/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

[EF] [EF] [AB] [AB]

Battery Z: Point Defense (Energy): 1-2/3-4/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

2nd Mode: 1-2/3-4/5-6, 1/4+/1/1, Interceptor (Ballistic); Increased Hits; Repeating.

[ABCDEF]

Special Equipment: Critical Hit Save (5+); Damage Control (2 dice); Datalinks: Range 6 (3); Hyperdrive.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 10, Maintenance: 4, Defensive Value: 5, Anti-Ship: 14, Anti- Fighter: 2, Command Rating: 5, Command Cost: 3.

2010-06-29 19:54:16

Here is the more complex version of the cruiser.

Aquan Prime Storm class Cruiser (921 CR) All systems are TK +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 21 20 19 18 17 16* 15 14 13 12 11 10* 9 8 7 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 10 10 10 9 9 8 8 7 7 6 6 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: VY, 2: VZ, 3: W, 4: W, 5: X, 6: Y.

Battery V: Primary Weapons (Energy): 1-4/5-8/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

[HJ] [HJ] [IK] [IK] [EF] [EF]

Battery W: Primary Weapons (Energy): 1-4/5-6/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

[HJ] [HJ] [IK] [IK] [EF] [EF]

Battery X: Primary Weapons (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-4/5-8/---, 2/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

Co-Axial B: ---/5-8/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Minimum Range; Repeating.

[G] [G] [G]

Battery Y: Torpedoes (Ballistic): 1-4/5-8/9-12, 1/4+/1/1, Fire-Linked; Increased Hits; Repeating.

[ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF]

Battery Z: Point Defense (Energy): 1-2/3-4/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits; Repeating.

2nd Mode: 1-2/3-4/5-6, 1/4+/1/1, Interceptor (Ballistic); Increased Hits; Repeating.

[ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF]

Special Equipment: Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Datalinks: Range 6 (3); Hyperdrive; Marines (4); Mines (3); Teleports (2).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 19, Maintenance: 6, Defensive Value: 14, Anti-Ship: 24, Anti-Fighter: 5, Command Rating: 9, Command Cost: 4.

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