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(7 replies, posted in Miniatures)

:shock: wow!
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(8 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

Does that mean we should all submit TLAPD card designs now? :twisted:

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(18 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

big_smile Well, started putting together the "Tiburon" frigate over the weekend.  Have to do some finish work and place the sails, cannon barrels, and light guns before I paint it up yet.   I'll try to add a pic of work so far tonite onto the Flota del Aether site.

Semi-decent pic is posted at the same link as sketches. Enjoy! :wink:

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(33 replies, posted in Discussion)

What's a martian's favorite drink?


Bloody Mary of course.  lol  *ducks the thrown rotten fruits and anvils*



The movie was intense...my g/f started freaking out from the moment the first tripod opened up until they got to their destination...

That's gonna be a LOT of reverse engineering for someone I think.  big_smile

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(18 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

Here's the webpage where I've posted the rough concept sketches for the Flota del Aether fleet.  Enjoy...and yes, most of the ships have a low profile, bridge forward style design to give the primary batteries the greatest arcs of fire.   big_smile


www.angelfire.com/or3/torion/flota_del_aether/

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(41 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

:oops: I really do need to go back and re-read the original WotW.  Your quote pretty well indicates the cylinder sizing...(darn it! I liked the space starfish. *chuckles*) 

Just throwing ideas out from early posts in this thread. smile

Oh well...the starfish can come later with the metal men and friends.  :wink:

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(41 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

A bit behind the times...and going back to the Martian Ship portion of this subject.

Given 10 flashes of light, and assuming a martian cylinder launch for each one, no relation to size of cylinders is given.  Therefore, each flash was visible on the surface of mars from earth via telescope that would seem to indicate a very large projectile.  Martians being tri-limbed and such, it would seem reasonable to assume their space craft would be as well.  Kind of like a three limbed starfish looking thing. (this visualizes rather elegantly) Stack 10 or more of them into a cylinder formation for launch...and with 10 launches you have a 100 ship armada heading for earth, each armed with heavy heat beams and magnetic fields rather than armor and projectiles.  The British LPs would be least effected by the shields.

Consider each tripod walker a lander type craft, two or three carried under each arm of the ship as a blister pod, dropped from orbit to earth...and it creates a rather respectable global sized invasion force.

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(18 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

Colonialism on the moon, eh?  Not being as up on Victorian concepts of the moon and its environs...Do tell... :twisted:

If the major powers did get pretty wrecked during the marian invasion, then Spain as a primary agricultural economy would be poised to make significant profits in export of foodstuffs and such to the war torn nations.  With the rise in exports, the economy would likely improve helping to shore up the stability of the Maura government, despite the political enemies his non-pandering style created.  With the government stablized, Spain would be ready to embark once again on the journeys of exploration and discovery that helped create her greatness.  The improved economy would also provide the needed funding for the construction of their Flota del Aether.  *ponders*

I'd forgotten about that aspect of the time/story line....d'OH! :oops:

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(18 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

Most of it is actual history and the names and dates are correct, just a bit generalized eventwise.  The only portions that are fictional is that Spain traded for the resources and technologies from France.  In reality, they pretty much gave Morocco away since they were unable to govern it.  The other bit would be their attempt to revive their country's position as a world player through the exploration of the aether.  Once earth gets to Mars, I can see a revival of the Conquistador possible.

The actual events of the time period for Spain were pretty dismal in fact. The Maura government only lasted for 2 years, thereabouts...and it was the most stable and long lasting of the governments from 1898 to 1914 or so.  Spain was in such poor shape politically (a massive liberalization of government occurred over this time) and militarily that when WWI came on...they absolutely HAD to be neutral. 

It was about 3 hours of reading just to deal with all the events of the period and goings on.  The only thing Spain led the world on at the time was in the number of religious orders within the country.  They had so many that there was an actual ban on creating any new ones sometime around 1908-1910 I think it was.  They never even began to industrialize until after WWI, which is why I have France supplying resources. 

As for pics of their ships...I'm sketching them out and playing with concepts.  I'll scan in what the rough sketches and try to post them soon. smile

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(18 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

Well...I answered my own question while researching Spain's role in the world circa 1898-1912.  Pretty much, they were a declining world power and the Spanish-American War of 1898 all but finished them off.  With an agricultural economy and a politically bankrupt government, they didn't truely industrialize or recover until well after WWI, despite a bit of a bright spot from approximately 1906-1908.  Given that and that IS is on a bit more fictional tangent, the following is my proposal for the introduction of Spain into the aether.  For anyone from Spain reading this, please forgive the gross editing and license taken with your history, no slur is intended. :oops:



The 1898 war with the United States ended with the independence of Cuba and the loss of the Philippines, Guam, and Puerto Rico to the US for $20 million.  This left Spain with a single significant holding, Morocco and a country rapidly vanishing from the world stage politically, economically, and militarily.

Fortunately, the Queen Regent appointed Francisco Silvela to the post of Prime Minister in March of 1899.  Silvela began his attempts at reform rapidly, one of his appointees creating the "Villaverde Reforms" resulting in the economic stabilization in Spain and beginning a small recovery.

Political corruption and obstructionists result in a rapid change of governments.  This slows and ultimately halts reforms and recovery.  Silvela resigns for the second time in 1903 disgusted with the inability to effect reforms.

1902- Alfonso XIII comes to the throne on his 16th birthday.  Unfortunately, he is well meaning but not well educated.  Intent on establishing himself as an "army king", his interests concentrate on Spain's security, unity, and prestige rather than the social, economic, cultural, and religious problems destroying the foundations of his country.
Over the next several years, Spain sees the rise and fall of many governments with durations of mere months.

Spain's army becomes increasingly disgruntled due to low pay and public criticisms in the aftermath of the 1898 war.  Rampant militarism throughout Europe leaves the Spanish Army with little prestige and the economic drought leaves it with little funding.  Spain is rapidly left behind on the world stage.

1904- An arrangement brokered with France by King Alfonso XIII trades a majority of Spain's last holding, Morocco, for resources and technologies necessary to construct a modest squadron of aetheric vessels.  It is the hope of the crown that the development of these vessels will open the door to new holdings and wealth, revitalizing the country.

The political turmoil raging prevents any immediate development of aetheric vessels.  Social unrest and religious tensions are rising amidst the floundering economy and political instability.  Spain finds itself unable to police even the last of its holdings in Morocco.

1906- An assassination attempt on the life of King Alfonso XIII by social radicals galvanizes the crown to action.  The Moret government fails in the aftermath of the failed assassination. 

1907- Antonio Maura comes to power as the Prime Minister and immediately institutes sweeping reforms and strengthening of Spain's national defenses.  Among the many projects instuted under his government was the long postponed development of the Flota del Aether.
This move along with marginally increased pay, improves the morale and esprit de corps of the Spanish Armed Forces.

1908- Spain launches the first vessel of the Flota del Aether, the frigate "Tiburon".  A new age of exploration and hope for Spain has began.


Open for comments.... :shock:

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(7 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

Damage from collisions would be a combination of mass times speed.

Hull size one = d8 base damage dice.  Speed 1-2 be x1, speed 3-4 be x2, speed 5-6 be x3, speed 7-8 be x4, speed 9-10 would be d10 x1 and progress upwards.  If carrying torpedoes or what, just add in their damage individually but tie the to hit roll with the success of the ram, since it's actually being piloted on the FAC.

I have to agree ramming would be a "last resort, in your face, there's noone gonna save my rear" type of action.  If any friendly ships are around or survive then it's pretty unlikely the FAC crew will want to ram.  Even if no friendly ship is left on the board, should one have escaped, the FAC may try to pursue in hopes of rescue. 

Just thinking out loud... :oops:

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(18 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

Coolness.  8)  That helps a lot.  The Spanish "Flota del Aether" is under construction.

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(12 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

Cool venusian pic.  Like the concept of a hot and swampy Venus.  The leeches must be murder. *evil chuckles*

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(18 replies, posted in Iron Stars)

Curious about which powers are officially in the aether.  Am making my own figs and was considering setting them up as the Spaniards.  Having a history with the British and the French at least, it just seems to make sense that Spain would endeavor to make at least a showing of the flag.
:?


The other question I had in mind was what the fins are...sails, solar collectors, ???.  Then again I may have missed something reading the rules (nice btw).  :oops:

(added to tie into thread title)
Official Fleets mentioned from Iron Stars rulebook and Merchant War:

America
United Kingdom
Russia
China
Germany
France
Austria-Hungary
South Africa
Italy
Japan