That was what I was thinking, since a vehicle with an 8 inch move has potentially an extra point of DC, for the loss of a single inch of movement.

smokingwreckage - yes, your posts highlighted the game to me. Still, you have to love a game which allows you to get your Transformers down from the shelf and put together actual rules for them!  8)

Hi. Still here...

Did these turn up anywhere?

Thanks for the inside information. Any idea when this is scheduled for release?

Also, is there a place that lists created by players are archived? The Yahoo Group seems to have some, but I cant seem to find it and I dont know how active it is. This site would be a sensible place, but I am not sure if the space and resources exist, or how this would leave MJ12 in terms of copyright ownership. I am putting together a general wargames site, and I will certainly be having a Defiance section in it, so I would be interested in opening this up as a resource (are there any Defiance fan web sites around?).

A few more questions from the army customiser (customizer for those across the pond  8)  )...

1. Page 67, sections 2, 3 and 4. I guess that the '25%' Maximum is the total points value of the force which can be spend on these units when building a force for a game... Right?

2. Page 67, section 6 - I guess that, since Matrix quality troops dont take individual morale tests, they dont need to spend any points on the 'failed inidividual morale test' results.

3. Page 68, section 7 - mob mentality. If a standard unit has a maximum size of 8, then a mob has a maximum unit size of 16. If the mob unit is now at 7 models, what is the rally roll modifier? (So, is the mob half size counted as the half standard unit size, or half mob unit size?)

4. Page 72, sections 1 to 10. Can you select not to purchase these upgrades at all - since if you have to at least purchase the minimum level for each section option, you are going to run out of points quickly? If you dont need to purchase even the minimum level for these, what are the values? For example...

Section 1 - no points - how many frames can be purchased?
Sections 2, 3 and 4 - no points - how much can SI, PI and vehicle weapons totally cost?
Section 5 - no points - no phase weapons allowed?
Section 6 - no points - what armour rating is allowed?
Section 7 - no points - PI move must be 5 or less?
Section 8 - no points - no field saves?
Section 9 - no points - what HTH rating is given to infantry or Mecha?
Section 10 - no points - what happens here, no indirect fire?

5. Reflex - Is this freely chosen by the player? It seems that the reflex value is used to calculate other values, but there is no statement on how the player selects the reflex values.

6. Are there rules which allow the use of troops without morale rules? For example, what about a force consisting of standard infantry backed up by robotic warriors, which behave completely differently in terms of morale? Would each one then be a Mecha at size 2?

7. Is there anywhere that there are some (detailed) battle reports for the game? It would really help for me to read a battle report giving details of the moves made and the dice rolled.

Thanks, and all the best.

And that would be... where? (See, told you I was not so bright!)

I looked through the site and the links on the left of the front page go to a few demo rules and stats, but nothing more, and the catalogue page wants my money.

Thanks.

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I have the same diagram in my head, but the vehicle is going in the other direction (and therefore the poor infantryman is thrown backwards over the vehicle and behind it).

I am available for (and interested in) helping to proofread future suppliments! (My advantage is that I am not so bright.) 

That is the way that intuition implies things would work. I prefer to think of it that the SI are lighter and so manage to jump further than the PI, who are lucky to land standing.

One final question on the basic rules:

If a unit boards a vehicle, they become a single, ad hoc unit. Does this mean that the standard leadership penalties apply to a unit leader on a vehicle? (I also assume that the unit can disembark without any of the problems of a unit splitting on the battlefield.)

The advanced rules actually throw up less questions for me...

I guess that a unit which begins the game hidden, can elect to 'waste' its activation in order to remain hidden for another turn.

Sneak and Fire - does this state that a single model may fire a single weapon, or that the sneaking unit can all fire one weapon type (for example all of the primary weapons)?

Many thanks.

I must have missed that part.... where does it state that frindly fire is not allowed?

Allowing some armies to do so would be interesting... perhaps only against units with a lower morale rating - so Elites can fire at anyone, etc.

More questions... this time on hand to hand combat:

1. If a model charges into base contact then its enemy must make an individual morale test. If this is fails, does this mean that the newly engaged model is shaken and placed prone? It seems to make more sense that they would turn tail, rather than hit the dirt.

2. A reflex roll is made to determine the order or striking. I assume that this is made for each activation (both mine and my enemies). Also, I assume that all attacks occur from one figure, then its enemy, and not that the alternate attacks with the winner of the reflex roll getting the first strike.

Many thanks... and congratulations on having the only rule that I have ever read to include the word 'obfuscating'!  :shock:

Sorry, what I meant was that the distance from target determines what you actually need to roll to hit the guy under the template.

I see the similarity with Vor. I guess that the only remaining question is whether 15" is a fixed max range for all Cone weapons.

Now you have confused me.  :oops:  Do you mean that the friendly model must be included in the template and that I have to roll damage against him as well as the two enemy models? (Since that is how I read the situation.)

Thanks.

Hi, and thanks for your patience. I am a little confused about Cone weapons still.

Take, for example, the Human Flamethrower. It has three range bands, and a max range of 15". My guy armed with this weapon is confronted by an enemy model at 3", a friendly at 8" and another enemy at 11".

If I fire, how far does the cone extend? I notice that all Cone wespons in the book have the same three range bands (5", 10" and 15"). Does this mean that Cone weapons always have this attribute?

Would I be correct in saying, in my example above, that the Flamethrower area extends the full 15", catching all three models in the effect and hitting them on the different scores for the range bands?

If this is the case, is it possible to have a cone weapon with the range bands: 5", 10", 15", 20" - meaning that each time it is fired the cone area must extend the full 20" and catching anything in the area of effect?

Thanks again.

Thanks for the clarifications guys. One more...

Covering Fire:

If I have three infantry with the same facing, and then an enemy infantry unit moves into my cover arc from the side, does this mean that all my infantry squad must fire at the first enemy target, before the rest of the enemy unit moves, and therefore my unit may 'kill' the same guy three times and then not be able to fire at the rest of the enemy squad?

If my unit is at different facings, and the enemy unit again moves in from the side, do I fire at the first enemy figure to enter the first facing of my unit, or can I wait for more than one of my figures to be able to fire at him? Otherwise, it seems that I forfeit covering fire when just one of my guys fires at just one of the enemy guys.

Generally, I am not sure when covering fire happens - when the first enemy figure is elligable (interupting its movement), at the end of the movement of the first enemy figure which becomes elligable, or at the end of the (first set of) movement for the entire unit when one enemy figure becomes an elligable target?

Thanks again.

Many thanks. One other question (for now):

I am a little confused by the movement over terrain modifiers. A model crossing medium terrain gets its movement rate reduced by half. Does this mean that a M4 model can then move a standard 2"? If so, and it then takes a move-fire-move action, are both movements affected? Also, does this modifier occur no matter how deep the terrain actually is that is being moved through?

Thanks again.