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zircher wrote:Interesting, I read somewhere that it was 2-3mm thick. I can hopefully save some more cost with hollow minis. I uploaded various Shiva BBs to Shapeways, but the costs are brutal. Kind of like Space Fleet Omega, FASA never created a line of capital ship minis for the Renegade Legion universe.
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It depends on your material. The default WSF (white strong flexible) material has a minimum wallthickness of 1mm (actually, 0.7mm, but they recommend at least 1.0). I think it is 2-3 for some of the other materials (Steel, for instance is 3mm).
Hollowing out is the only way (that I've found) to make a decent cost model. Ideally, if you keep things hollow your costs scale with the 1.5 power instead of with the cube.
go0gleplex wrote:The current IS miniatures on the market by Brigade Models are indeed hand made.
Sorry, I was unclear. I was interested in the looking at the 3D rendered images Admiral Pertwee referred to in his original post. Since there are existing 3D models, it should be much easier to port them to the Shapeways 3D printing process, if Brigade wanted to do so.
jimbeau wrote:afrodri wrote:Could someone point me to a link to the original renders?
Weren't they hand-made?
Sorry... I found them in the rule book. Impressive work. It would depend on how the model was done, but first impressions are that they would be amenable to 3D printing. The shapes, size, and levels of detail seem doable, especially some of the sails.
Rough calculation:
Bantam class Battleship is 75mm long. I don't have the other measurements, so lets assume the body is 75x20x20mm, or about 30cm^3, this would be $31.50. If you hollow it out, the surface area is about 68 cm^2, with a thickness of 1mm, that comes to 6.8cm^2. Assume 20% overage for detail, and you get $13.74, which is about 40% more than the metal figure goes for, without the sails.
Of course I'm not sure of those measurements, and the 20% is just a guess...
Could someone point me to a link to the original renders?
thanks,
arun
I *CAN* output the 3D stuff in a convertible format, I don't know how much work would be required to make them ready for Shapeways. If Dan wants me to, all he has to do is say the word. I suspect there's more to it than simple technical feasibility.
It is generally not too bad to convert for shapeways. The main restrictions (for the WSF) material is that it needs to be at least 0.7mm thick to be strong and that the minimum detail that will show up is 0.1-0.2mm. There is also a nice community on shapeways to help "debug" your file if you run into problems.
Another advantage of the shapeways/rapid prototyping process is economic rather than technical - because there is (potentially) no mold-making cost and production is on demand, the seller assumes less risk. They still have to do the design, of course, and it is best to order a part or two to make sure it came out right, but its a far cry from what ever a mold costs. Plus, since the part is laser sintered each time, you don't have to worry about molds wearing out.
Incidentally, the line of ships starbreaker refered to is at http://www.shapeways.com/shops/objects.
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