Topic: "non-free" parts of Starmada

I've got the color-printed version, and it looks great.  Seriously, I've played a lot of games over a lot of years, and more and more I appreciate simplicity and clean presentation.  My over 40 eyes appreciate the nice big font and lots of pictures, etc.  Only things I think are a bit messy are the extended arc labels (which I'll never remember), the sideslips (not sure I'll need them, however), and maybe the way to squeak in a turn while going over your thrust level.  But I digress.

I don't want to throw everything in to my first games, but there are some options I'd like to put into my fleet as I design it.  My friend has the free PDF.  If I use these options, I'll have to tell him what they are and how to use them.

What do you think about sharing within a group?

I would not put all the info from the non-free part into a cheatsheet and give it to him.

I'd like to be able to tell him the options I'd like to use (weapon traits, maybe some optional rules, a scenario, etc).  I assume I could explain these.

I also assume that if he likes the game, he'll buy the rules in some form.

How do you (Dan) feel about it?  The extra rules don't do me any good if he doesn't have the rules, but it shouldn't be that only I need to buy the rules.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not so sure.  We've played several games where one person had the rules and taught the other to play, maybe loaned a book for a bit.  If we play a boardgame, we don't expect both people to buy copies to have the whole rules.  I think I was fogged up some by the free PDF.  So I think he should be able to use pretty much anything.  I just wouldn't send him a copy of the full PDF, or photocopy my book, etc.)

Just checking--Dan, what do you think?

Is the Appendix A on the site?  It says it should be.

andy

Re: "non-free" parts of Starmada

Well, you're not going to get me on record as saying it's okay to distribute the game to people who haven't bought it... 'cause it's not... big_smile

But there is such a thing as "fair use"...

Appendix A is now up on the site: www.mj12games.com/starmada/appendixA.pdf

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

Re: "non-free" parts of Starmada

Right, I'm not talking about giving him a copy, and we started out being pretty conservative.  But the boardgame analogy (I would teach a friend how to play a boardgame with me without any question) seems appropriate to us, and hopefully that's within the fair use thing.  I don't want to have to limit my use of the book just because he hasn't bought it yet.

Looks like there are more rules that even I don't have.  I wonder what I would want from the new supplement.  Hmmmm...

andy

Re: "non-free" parts of Starmada

I'm looking at the new Appendix A, in A.4.

"Ant-Fighter (Weapon)"

Should this be "Anti-Fighter(Weapon)"?

andy

Re: "non-free" parts of Starmada

andyskinner wrote:

"Ant-Fighter (Weapon)"

Should this be "Anti-Fighter(Weapon)"?

Well, now, if you bought the new supplement, you'd know that it does in fact mean "Ant-Fighter".

smile

Thanks for catching that.

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

Re: "non-free" parts of Starmada

Bugs!  Millions of 'em!


(I have to see how much I spent on my wife's Christmas presents first, then decide if I want color.  The color rulebook is very nice.)

By the way, what expectations do you have for publishing supplements?  I love the SAE rulebook for being beautiful and clean.  I'm coming from a system I like (FT), but which has become spread over several books, and is in need of a cleanup (IMO).  I don't know that I'm interested in the pregenerated ships, and I'm not particularly interested in the history (sorry).  But I am interested in some of the new options.  (I don't want 3D, and I don't know what combat interception means, but I would like to see anti-fighter batteries.)  I don't mind buying a second book.

But how often would you expect to publish books with rule options in them?  I don't want a library of Starmada rulebooks, with lots of fluff for a universe I don't use.  My friend bought some spaceships and started asking me about the Full Thrust rules, and I talked him into trying Starmada, largely with simplicity and brevity in mind.

I imagine there is a post about this somewhere, so I'll go look for that.  The announcement for ISS says this is the second half of publishing SAE, so I guess there aren't any new supplements just over the horizon?

thanks,
andy