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Topic: Star Blazers?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mj12games@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mj12games@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Being a newbie here, I'm wondering if anybody has or knows of
> Star Blazers conversions to Starmada X?  Thanks in advance
> for any info.

Welcome, Kevin! smile

Offhand, I am unaware of any existing conversions to Star Blazers, but I have often pulled out my copy of SBFCS and contemplated such...

Perhaps there is room for a forum-wide collaboration?

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Re: Star Blazers?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mj12games@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mj12games@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
>
> > Perhaps there is room for a forum-wide collaboration?
> >
> I will be more than happy to lend a hand (or do it all myself
> for others to help fix/revise) once I get a handle on the
> system.  I'm surprised that with all the other 'unofficial'
> conversions out there, Star Blazers never made the cut.

Well, I would think the first step would be to decide what the "scale" is... and since it's already there, we should probably use the Fleet Combat System data as a starting point.

So, what is a "hull point" in Star Blazers?

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Re: Star Blazers?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mj12games@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mj12games@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
> > Well, I would think the first step would be to decide what
> the "scale" is... and since it's already there, we should
> probably use the Fleet Combat System data as a starting point.
> >
> > So, what is a "hull point" in Star Blazers?
> >
> Scale...hmm.  The ships themselves are smaller than, say, Cold Navy. 
> More akin to Fleet Action minis from AOG if memory serves. 
> Not sure if that's what your asking.

No... by "scale" I mean how big is "big" in game terms. Actual scales vary from mini to mini, but a 5-hull ship is a 5-hull ship in Starmada.

> As for hull points.  Maybe this will help (using the famous
> Yamato as an example):
> Length: 266m
> Beam: 35m
> Height: 77m
> Mass: 62K tons
> Crew: 114
>
> That said, there are 124 Hull Structure points, and on every
> 12th 'point' of damage there is a critical...and after 60%
> damage, the 'special' weapon (in this case the Wave Motion
> Gun) cannot fire and all other weapons lose their efficiency.

There are no construction rules for the SBFCS game, IIRC, so this question might be difficult to answer, but is hull structure linear? ie., in Starmada, a 2-hull ship is more than twice a 1-hull ship, a 10-hull ship is more than twice a 5-hull ship, etc.

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Re: Star Blazers?

cricket wrote:

There are no construction rules for the SBFCS game, IIRC, so this question might be difficult to answer, but is hull structure linear? ie., in Starmada, a 2-hull ship is more than twice a 1-hull ship, a 10-hull ship is more than twice a 5-hull ship, etc.

Also, it might be good to know where the Yamato fits in the range of SBFCS ships... is it a mid-sized ship? Large? Extra large? (Extra crispy?)

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Re: Star Blazers?

cricket wrote:
cricket wrote:

There are no construction rules for the SBFCS game, IIRC, so this question might be difficult to answer, but is hull structure linear? ie., in Starmada, a 2-hull ship is more than twice a 1-hull ship, a 10-hull ship is more than twice a 5-hull ship, etc.

Also, it might be good to know where the Yamato fits in the range of SBFCS ships... is it a mid-sized ship? Large? Extra large? (Extra crispy?)

Is SBFCS still available? Online somewhere?

Having seen the anime, but not the game, I'd say that Yamato is a large ship. I very much look forward to seeing the "Wave Motion Gun" stats in Starmada lingo (hey, or Iron Stars!)....I mean, the thing was able to destabilize a planet!

..it would, of course have to remain 'unofficial'. :-)

I had the link to a Star Blazers site that had a lot of ship pix...

You might start at:

http://www.desslok.com/
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Re: Star Blazers?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mj12games@yahoogroups.com
> ..so then looking back again at the Yamato (a standard
> battleship in the SB universe), it's Warship Class rating is
> 5 (as are most of the other battleships).  So, does it make
> sense to make the Yamato a Hull 5 to start?

I don't think so. A size 5 would be exceedingly small compared to a size 18. But if we assume the warship class ratings are linear, a conversion to space units -- which then leads to the appropriate hull size -- might be the way to go.

> > You might start at:
> >
> >
> > [/url]
> >
> No link...

www.desslok.com

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Re: Star Blazers?

cricket wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mj12games@yahoogroups.com
> ..so then looking back again at the Yamato (a standard
> battleship in the SB universe), it's Warship Class rating is
> 5 (as are most of the other battleships).  So, does it make
> sense to make the Yamato a Hull 5 to start?

I don't think so. A size 5 would be exceedingly small compared to a size 18. But if we assume the warship class ratings are linear, a conversion to space units -- which then leads to the appropriate hull size -- might be the way to go.

> > You might start at:
> >
> >
> > [/url]
> >
> No link...

www.desslok.com


If the Yamato is 'big', I'd say it was hull 20 on a scale that tops out around 30 - if your top end is 50, I'd say it's 30-35...

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Re: Star Blazers?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mj12games@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mj12games@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Another interesting thing about SB ships is that they do not
> have sheilds.  Does that throw off the S-X construction rules
> any, and I notice that each hull size has a 'Shield Factor'?

Nope. There have been several settings done up for Starmada where the role of shields has either been downgraded or eliminated. Either you build your ships without 'em and rely on special equipment to protect you, or you rename shields as "armor" and continue as normal.

smile

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Re: Star Blazers?

thedugan wrote:

Is SBFCS still available? Online somewhere?

Yup, at http://www.starblazersonline.com/ and new miniatures will be available very soon, I have some pics up at http://www.star-ranger.com/SBFBS.htm

kevin wrote:

Very much so...you can find their info on the Star Commander(?) website that is supposed to be the best.

Star Commander?  You must be talking about my wife, the only one I have to answer to  :wink: