• Registered: 2008-05-16
  • Posts: 76

Topic: Pre-Dreadnought Era

Hello all,

Anyone know where I can find technical data on warships especially pre-dreadnought's.  I have been doing some reading about Russo-Japanese War and wanted to put together some scenarios.   My problem is that most of the books I have are seriously lacking in the technical data I would need to stat out the ships.  I did find a couple books for sale on Ebay and B&N, but they were used and their sellers had serious cases of.... well lets just say the prices are steep.

Anyway, I'd like to play out some scenarios of the Russo-Japanese War and the First Sino-Japanese War and tech data is sparse.

Any pointers of where I can find it would be welcome.

  • Registered: 2010-04-01
  • Posts: 35

Re: Pre-Dreadnought Era

Do a google for the following books. Very reasonable if you know where to go wink .
Conway's - All The World's Fighting Ships 1860-1905
Conway's - All The World's Fighting Ships 1906-1921
These two books are pretty good, with all the stats you need

Cheers


Bruce

  • Registered: 2008-05-16
  • Posts: 76

Re: Pre-Dreadnought Era

Arrggghhh!!

They sure are proud of the Conway's 1860-1905.    I actually have enough to cover pretty much anything 1905ish forward.  It is the earlier period that is hard to find.  $180-290 is pretty steep though.   :shock:

  • Registered: 2022-11-16
  • Posts: 516

Re: Pre-Dreadnought Era

Spence wrote:

Arrggghhh!!
They sure are proud of the Conway's 1860-1905.    I actually have enough to cover pretty much anything 1905ish forward.  It is the earlier period that is hard to find.  $180-290 is pretty steep though.   :shock:

I was lucky enough to collect all three Conway's way back when, so I paid around $60 per book.
Conway's 1860-1905 and 1906-1920 were the two books that I used as source material for GF I.

If you don't want to go the Conway's route, just try Googling the ships you're wanting info on. For pre-1905 stuff it can sometimes be a little more difficult search. But anymore I've found that info on just about any warship is out there, and usually on several different sites. 
Kevin

  • Registered: 2010-02-05
  • Posts: 16

Re: Pre-Dreadnought Era

What happened to the Tsar & Emperor book that was to have all this info in it?
Don't say that it got canceled!

  • Registered: 2022-11-16
  • Posts: 516

Re: Pre-Dreadnought Era

I cranked out a bunch of ship cards and scenarios, but since I'm not involved with the project anymore, I guess I don't know.  smile

  • Registered: 2008-05-16
  • Posts: 76

Re: Pre-Dreadnought Era

Thanks for all the replies.  I have been accumulating information from multiple sources as I find them, plus I have gotten some great info PM'd. 

When I get the info organized and converted I'll post the list and ship cards. 

I've been a little busy, that thing called real life intruding, so it may take a little while.

A question though.  Currently for armor you need to determine type (either by year or detailed in ship information) and then Belt, End and Deck.  I have come across a few ships that do not mention ends.  If you only have Belt, Deck and Turret information, how would you figure Ends?

  • Registered: 2010-04-01
  • Posts: 35

Re: Pre-Dreadnought Era

End armour is a formula based on belt armour. You don't need to know the actual end armour as it has been made to be abstractly assumed to be derived from the belt armour.

  • Registered: 2008-05-16
  • Posts: 76

Re: Pre-Dreadnought Era

brucesim2003 wrote:

End armour is a formula based on belt armour. You don't need to know the actual end armour as it has been made to be abstractly assumed to be derived from the belt armour.

I think that qualifies as a "duh" on my part.....

I'm so used to using historical values for Belt, deck, etc, that I didn't read closely.  Both Deck and End are figured from formula vice using historical values.