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It's worth noting that the WYN also get their own purpose-built 'fish' ships; the likes of the Orca and Barracuda, which the Usurper used as the core of his War of Return fleet. (Except for the ones he left behind, which stayed to help keep the ISC and Andromedans out of the Cluster.)

They could be easily handled in terms of variants, since they use more limited option mount choices; just give a drone variant on one side of the page, and a phaser boat on the other.



In terms of empires I'd want, I'd like the ISC and Andromedans to show up sooner or later, as well as those from more distant parts of the Star Fleet Universe (such as Omega).


EDIT: Oh, and the Juggernaut Empire fleet would be pretty cool to see!

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I'd love to get some stats for the seahawks.

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There is such a thing in Alien Armada.

Marc

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Fantastic.  Anyone know when the PDF version will be available?

-Tim

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Now that the rules for particle cannons and shield crackers are in print, I'd hope that the two M81 Galaxy Pirate ships (the OGR and OGD, shown for SFB and FC in Captain's Log #40; there are half-inch counters for the two ships in FC: War and Peace) could make it over to Starmada sometime.

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How about the Regal Hawk?  I believe that is the smaller, firehawk size, equivalent to the Royal Hawk (has on R-torp and 2 F-torps).  I think the existing Firehawk mini would suffice as it comes with parts to make it into a Royal Hawk.

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Carriers, and their escorts.
Pre-war and early war ships.
Scouts, maulers, and drone ships.
I hate PFs, but PFs and PFTs for completeness.
The Lyrans and Hydrans (did we really need the Seltorians and NTs before we got these guys?)
More generally, everything included in an unexpanded game of F&E.  (And then start adding the expansions.)

Most of all, the single thing I'd most like to see, period, is an F&E-oriented Starmada Fleet Ops supplement with conversions for all the ships in the basic game, conversion notes from KA/RA/AA/..., any adaptations back and forth to F&E (for example, crippled vs. non-crippled in both games aligns very well, but how do you deal with damage to a carrier group?), and so forth.  Fleet Ops looks like it plays fast enough that you ought to be able to finish a battle almost as quickly in it as you could in the vanilla F&E combat system, and it still leaves open the possibility of using full Starmada (or FC or SFB) for smaller battles.

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Not sure if these are out there anywhere yet. I have Klingon Armada, Romulan Armada, and Alien Armada, but none of the recent Captain's Logs.

Anyway, I'd love to see:

Klingon F6

Klingon D6D (my all-time favorite SFU ship)

Klingon B10

Fast Patrol Ships and Tenders

Carriers and Fighters

Andromedans!

Much thanks for the opportunity to submit some input!  :mrgreen:

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I have a conjectural Tholian Battleship mini that wants to play.  smile

But yeah, count me in as seconding the carriers.

I'd also like to see PF flotillas and their tenders.

Also... some kind of Scout implementation.

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I would vote a big YES on P/F's and Fighters!

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To me it seems the "ships" are pretty much covered in Klingon Armada, Romulan Armada, & Alien Armada.

I'd like to see some of the "monsters" from the good old SFB solo scenarios...

The Planet Crusher (the one I've downloaded is WHIMPY!)
The Space Amoeba
The Moray Eel of Space
The Cosmic Cloud
The Sunsnake
The Mind Monster
Space Dragons

That way all us Starmada players could play with ourselves.
er...
I'll get me coat and leave now...

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My own desires (which are probably not in line with everyone else, but hey, you asked!):

First, I'm REALLY wanting the Alpha empires rounded out.  So the ISC I think are the only empire really missing, but Andromedan ships would be completely wonderful as well.  That more-or-less gives me that full "core" set of empires I want to play with.

Once they're added, I'd love to get expanded support for either more "minor" or extinct empires (Vudar, Jindarians, Carnivons, Paravions etc) or an "early years" set of ships and rules (like FC Briefing #2), or support ships (like in Briefing #1) or maybe at some future point X Ships.  And there's Omega to look at at some point, plus the LMC if that's not enough.

I know this probably isn't the most popular opinion, but I really just like the SFU as large ships fighting each other.  Once you have all empires having fighters and then interceptors and PFs, to me you're playing a very different game and not one I'm really all that interested in.  The Hydrans having fighters is cool and all, it's their "thing".  There are other popular Sci Fi setting which concentrate on smaller ships and fighter combat and to be honest I'm more interested in using those settings for that type of thing.  So what I want from the Starfleet Armada line is more "proper" ships of all empires and types.

I think the only FC products not yet converted are War and Peace, Transports Attacked and Battleships Attack, plus the Briefings, so getting those converted makes complete sense (I'm assuming that this is what you're doing anyway, since that's what you've done so far!).

If you're asking about other content, I'd really like to see some more scenarios.  Whether these are conversions of old FC/SFB scenarios from various sources or new, I really don't care.  But it'd be cool to have even some vague and fairly generic scenarios worked out: generic escort, base defence, asymmetric forces with different objectives, that kind of thing.

EDITED TO ADD: Oh yeah, and MORE SPACE MONSTERS PLEASE!!!  big_smile

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And more in the spirit of asking for actual ships:

The fed ships from Booster 91 which haven't been covered already.  Which I think are the "lollipop" DD, DDM, DDG, DDL and Tug (although I guess the Tug will get covered in a conversion of Transports Attacked.

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Sabre-Class

Akira-Class

Those are my favorites.

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unclekulikov wrote:

Sabre-Class

Akira-Class

Those are my favorites.

The licence that ADB has will not allow ships from "Star Trek" so you will not see these ships covered.
You could however design your own version of these ships.

Paul

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Companion Games, long since defunct, made some of the first SSD's for Star Fleet Battles that were not made by Task Force Games.  They then made a CCG called Galactic Empires based on the Sector those SSD ships populated.  They were fun and I'd like to see them done in the Star Fleet universe, Starmada style.

The Races represented were:

Argonian First Republic
Krebiz Capitalist Alliance
Corporate Agressors
Mechad Holdfast
Scorpead Dominion
and others, including my Favorite minor/major race ...
the Indirigan Nomads.

Oh Yea, they also had many varieties of Space Dragons

does this ring any old-timers bells ??

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As far as I know, any material made "for use with" Star Fleet Battles and not published either by Task Force Games (TFG) or Amarillo Design Bureau (ADB) violates TFG's/ADB's copyrights and is illegal. So those will never be part of the SFU.

I do remember the Galactic Empires card game. I never bought or played it though.

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Terryoc,
   To the best of my memory, the game company that made the SSD Books of their 'Space Sector', DID have permission.  At least it said so on the inside cover of their books.  The SSD books were sold at Hobby stores, not some fly by night e-mail address.  I'm contacting an OLD friend to unearth his old SFB cache to verify this.  My extensive collection of SSD photocopies didn't survive one particular humid summer many years ago, and the mold (Kudzu perhaps) invasion which soon followed.  I'll also check online.

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Darn,

It took only a few clicks at BoardGameGeek to look up these old products, and they were indeed "Unofficial" products.  Well, I might still see if my OLD friend has his SSD's of them and make my own "Unofficial" Starmada variant.  If that actually happens, I'll post them to the boards.  That group of vessel and weapon designs deserve to not be forgotten.
   I find it ironic to say the least that TFG/ADB took Companion games to court about this when A) Companion games really did a great job promotion the SFB system, and B) That Star Fleet Battles cannot use "Star Trek' canon lest they be slapped with a lawsuit from a greater power.  Although I certainly understand the need for intellectual property rights, I'm sure those of you at MJ12 sometimes feel the ropes attached when dealing with another's property righta, and the hoops you must jump to stay on the right side of the law.  BTW - thanks for going thru those hoops ... having Starmada with the SFB universe is just too cool !!

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I second the ISC and Andromedan request.   

PPDs, TRs and DDs yahoo!

And then I'll add the units from the Andromeden Threat File...bwahahaha.
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