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Hey guys,
I am a noob at Starmada. Learning it. Liking it. But need some construction help.
Can one of you masterful masters of the system walk me through a complete build of the D7 from the Klingon Armada product? I cannot seem to get the points and spaces to work out right.
Regards.
Gladly, although it would be helpful if you gave some details on where you think you're going wrong. Are you getting a different combat rating than in the book?
I am assuming that the ship is a 9 hull. When I start adding all of the various systems, it seems to be way over the space limits. That's the first and main thing I encountered. But also I think the combat rating is too low, meaning I had a value of something around 250.
Also, I was not 100% sure on the space calculation of the faceted shields.
I am assuming that the ship is a 9 hull. When I start adding all of the various systems, it seems to be way over the space limits. That's the first and main thing I encountered. But also I think the combat rating is too low, meaning I had a value of something around 250.
Okay. Good to know.
First: the space requirements have been kinda thrown out the window when it comes to the SFU ships -- we're trying to replicate the capabilities of ships in SFB/FC. Just think of it as the effect of some implied tech level modifiers... 
Second, I'll go through the combat rating computations step-by-step:
OFFENSIVE RATING:
Phaser-1: RNG 15, ROF 1, ACC 4+, IMP 1, DMG 1 (Range-Based ROF)
-> Base SU Requirement = 15 * 1 * ( 1 + 0.25 ) * ( 1 + 0.6 ) / 4 * 2 = 15
-> Total SU Cost = 15 * ( 12 + 3 ) = 225
-> ORAT = 225 * ( 6 + 15 ) / 15 = 315
Phaser-2: RNG 12, ROF 1, ACC 5+, IMP 1, DMG 1 (Range-Based ROF)
-> Base SU Requirement = 12 * 1 * ( 1 + 0.25 ) * ( 1 + 0.6 ) / 6 * 2 = 8
-> Total SU Cost = 8 * ( 14 + 6 ) = 160
-> ORAT = 160 * ( 6 + 12 ) / 12 = 240
Disruptors: RNG 18, ROF 1, ACC 4+, IMP 2, DMG 1
Overloaded: RNG 18, ROFG 1, ACC 5+, IMP 4, DMG 1 (Carronade)
-> Base SU Requirement (Normal) = 18 * 1 * ( 2 + 0.25 ) * ( 1 + 0.6 ) / 4 = 16.2
-> Base SU Requlrement (Overload) = 18 * 1 * ( 4 + 0.25 ) * ( 1 + 0.6 ) / 6 * 0.7 = 14.28
-> Base SU Requirement (Combined) = 16.2 + ( 14.28+14.2 / 2 ) = 23.34, rounded up to 24
-> Total SU Cost = 24 * ( 8 + 4 ) = 288
-> ORAT = 288 * ( 6 + 18 ) / 18 = 384
Drone Racks: 3 * 60 = 180
Probes: 5 * 12 = 60
Shuttles: 2 * 15 = 30
Tractor Beams: 3 * 28 = 84
Transporters: 5 * 10 = 50
Total ORAT = 1343
DEFENSIVE RATING:
Base DRAT = 9 * 60 / ( 30 - 14 ) = 33.75
Drone Racks: 3 * 2.4 = 7.2
Marine Squads: 14 * 1 = 14
Shuttles: 2 * 0.6 = 1.2
Total DRAT = 56.15
COMBAT RATING:
CRAT = ( 1343 * 56.15 ) ^ 0.5 = 274.6, rounded to 275
Thanks for the detailed example! That helped a lot. I had most of it right.
But... I thought the rating of the D7 was 282, not 275.
But... I thought the rating of the D7 was 282, not 275.
From http://www.mj12games.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2187&p=17706#p17706:
A couple of errors were discovered in the computations used to determine point values for the included ships; however, the difference is very minor (an aggregate of -2.2%). We felt we should mention it since some players may try to recreate the ships and wonder why they get the "wrong" values.
Out of curiosity, when/where did you purchase your copy of KA? I thought we had corrected the point costs in later printings...
Two places actually. I got my original copy, a hard copy, from ADB.
But then I decided i wanted a more portable version for my iPad, which I am using as we speak, so i bought a pdf of the rules and ship cards from e23. I bought it last night. I just checked the value of the D7 and the big number in the upper right corner is still 282, just like the ADB printed copy.
If there are corrections, I assume I will get the new version when you update it on e23. That's how e23 works, right?
Regards and thanks for the clarifications.
Hmm... I'll have to check with ADB regarding the corrections.
In the meantime, here's a more detailed breakdown of the errata:
Speaking of all things Klingon, what is the schedule looking like for the Nova Edition of the SFU?
-Tim
Here is my version of the D7 that I am using at the Recon2012 con in CocoaBch this weekend. I designed it to be simple and easy to play for novices who will use my MicroMachine D7 minis:
Klingon D 7 WARSHIP-class CA (194)
ARMOR
HULL [_][_][_][_] [_][_][_][_] [_][_][_][_]
THRUST [5][4][3][2][1] WEAPONS [_][1][2][3][4]
ECM [_][_][_][_][_] SHIELDS [4][5][5][6][6]
WEAPONS ARCS RANGE ATTACK DICE -4 -6 -8 -10
Large Phasers (Sct) [FX] 6-12-18; 3 2 2 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Disruptors (Dx2/Prc) [FH] 6-12-18; 4 3 2 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
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