Topic: [OT] Stupid baseball...

...is stupid.

My White Sox may come back and win the series, but they won't do it playing like they did tonight.

It'd be one thing if the Angels took it to us, but after the third they had nothing left -- yet we strand six runners, and screw up two sac bunt attempts.

Baseball is stupid.

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

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Go 2006 Cubbies!

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jimbeau wrote:

Go 2006 Cubbies!

I knew I didn't like you.

tongue

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

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Hehe.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a sac bunt?

Football (the game everyone else calls football, not your football where there is hardly any use of the foot (except, of course, for getting the 1 point conversion and punts)) is much simpler. Only the offside rule is complicated...:D

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kevinsmith67206 wrote:

> Excuse my ignorance, but what is a sac bunt?
> ==========
>
> "Sac bunt" is short for sacrifice bunt.
> A sacrifice bunt occurs when the batter is attempting to move
> a base runner from first base to second base or second base
> to third base.
> The batter intentionally attempts to hit the ball very easily
> on the ground between the pitching mound and first base or
> the pitching mound and third base. The idea is to hit the
> ball in such a way as to leave the only option for the
> fielder fielding the ball to throw to first base to get the
> batter out, allowing any base runners to advance one base. In
> other words, "sacrificing" himself to advance the base runners.

Thanks, Kevin.

Now maybe you can explain the concept to the Sox...

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

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murtalianconfederacy wrote:

Football (the game everyone else calls football, not your football where there is hardly any use of the foot (except, of course, for getting the 1 point conversion and punts)) is much simpler. Only the offside rule is complicated...:D

I thought so at one time, but I "get" the offsides rule now...

And I am a big fan o' the footy (go Liverpool!) but for the first time in a long time October baseball is meaningful on the south side of Chicago -- history says we won't win the World Series, but we should at least play the way we did to get this far...

*sigh*

Back to gaming, I guess...

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

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Sox or Angels are just going to lose to the Cardinals anway, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

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Go 2006 Cubbies!

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jimbeau wrote:

Go 2006 Cubbies!

I still don't like you.

tongue

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

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I'm totally non-sports oriented.

I can't sit through any of them.

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I'm sorry, but I have to get this off my chest. Apologies to those who don't know (or care) what I'm talking about...

(I'm trying avoid the "White Sox won so it was the right call" attitude, but I understand that I am clearly biased... smile

Kudos to Baseball Tonight for going back and playing the clip of the play A.J. Pierzynski referred to in his interview (when he clearly dropped a third strike while playing for S.F. but failed to throw to first, allowing the opposing pitcher to reach base).

What is annoying to me is that they are so convinced that the umpire in this game somehow did something wrong or confusing by pumping his fist, they neglected to point out that the ump in that clip DID THE EXACT SAME THING. He clearly pumps his fist to indicate the strike, yet obviously the batter wasn't out that time, either. It would seem that the pumped-fist is a common signal for a third strike, out or not.

Also, the focus on the ump's "confusing" signal misses the point that the Angels catcher DIDN'T EVER SEE IT. He's so sure of himself that he tosses the ball back to the mound before the ump makes any signal at all.

If it's true that the ump verbally called the batters out all night, then the fact that he didn't for the critical at-bat should have clued the Angels catcher in, just as it did A.J. As they say in (American) football, "Play to the whistle."

Personally, I think the ump was wrong -- the catcher seems to have gloved it before the ball hit the dirt. But at full speed I can see why he might interpret it differently. (And according to at least one conspiracy-minded Netizen, there is another angle that clearly shows the ball hit the dirt, but ESPN refuses to show that angle ever again because "they love controversy".)

I'm sorry, but even if it's a missed call (which it appears to be), it would have been a simple matter for the Angels to correct -- tag the batter or throw to first. Instead, they made an assumption, and, well, you know what that leads to.

Besides detracting from Mark Buerhle's exceptional pitching, the worst thing about this is that it may result in the abomination of instant replay coming to baseball.

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

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cricket wrote:
murtalianconfederacy wrote:

Football (the game everyone else calls football, not your football where there is hardly any use of the foot (except, of course, for getting the 1 point conversion and punts)) is much simpler. Only the offside rule is complicated...:D

I thought so at one time, but I "get" the offsides rule now...

And I am a big fan o' the footy (go Liverpool!) but for the first time in a long time October baseball is meaningful on the south side of Chicago -- history says we won't win the World Series, but we should at least play the way we did to get this far...

*sigh*

Back to gaming, I guess...

Hehe.

Offside rule is easy for me to understand--helps if you think slightly differently from everyone else...:D

Anyway, England played like a proper football team last night. If only we could get a solid core of really good centre-backs, then we wouldn't let sloppy goals in.

Did anyone watch the game last night? The formation, for once, was spot on, and Wright-Philips, Joe Cole and Rooney were running rings around the poor Poles...:D  :evil:

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Okay, so baseball isn't quite as stupid anymore.

Go Go White Sox. smile

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

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What about the fourteen-inning game? The commentators over here on Five were getting slightly pissed off because they missed their trains...:D

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murtalianconfederacy wrote:

What about the fourteen-inning game? The commentators over here on Five were getting slightly pissed off because they missed their trains...:D

Ah, so what. On this side of the pond, we missed breakfast... smile

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

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what pond, lake michigan?

tee hee





Go 2006 cubbies!