• Registered: 2010-06-29
  • Posts: 82

Topic: Plasma F

Dan,
I'm trying to resolve the rounding error on the Shipyard. To this end I'm inputting each ship from KA-n and RA-n (sad I know). There appears to be an error with the Plasma F. While the plasma-S is coming out 1 attack dice too low (probably a rounding error), two plasma-F attack dice comes out at 4 not 7 dice as in the book. The ships seem to be pointed for 7 dice. The problem is on all plasma-F armed ships.
I think the ship displays are in error as two plasma-F are only 1 dice weaker than two plasma S!

I'm working through the books and have found a few ships which seem to have pointing errors which are larger than can be accounted for by rounding. I will collect them together and post them when I have finished all the ships.

  • From: Denver, CO
  • Registered: 2005-03-27
  • Posts: 3,578

Re: Plasma F

*sigh*

That's because the plasma BAS as given in the text are incorrect. They should be:

Plasma-R: 5.94
Plasma-S: 3.83
Plasma-G: 4.52
Plasma-F: 3.74
Plasma-D: 1.85

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

mj12games's Website

  • Registered: 2010-06-29
  • Posts: 82

Re: Plasma F

Thanks, that fixes most of the errors smile .

However (sorry about this :roll: ) but there are a few issues.
1. The Gorn Jaws DD seems to have a typo in the Plasma G its different from all the other Plasma Gs
2. Assuming rounding errors account for most of the differences and ignoring less than 3% of points difference the following Romulan ships seem to vary more significantly from my calculations;

Type; My calc vs Book
War Eagle; 327 vs 306 = 6%
Battle Hawk; 251 vs 267 = 6%
King Eagle; 386 vs 402 = 4%
KR; 362 vs 380 = 5%
Skyhawk; 328 vs 348 = 6%

Most of the other ships including other Romulans are with in 3% so I don't think its a rounding error. The War eagle is the only one where I calculate a higher score than the book so is a further anomaly.

  • Registered: 2005-06-08
  • Posts: 760

Re: Plasma F

Arrggggh. . . . .  Flufff!

Huh, I keep a pillow on the floor now!

This should be a sticky for everyone that bought the book
That is (in my eyes) a big way out, normally within a point or two.

Paul

  • Registered: 2005-06-08
  • Posts: 760

Re: Plasma F

I put a couple of the ships into the shipyard and I don't feel so bad now.
The War Eagle came out with a CRAT of 305, a difference of o.33%.
The Skyhawk came out with a CRAT of 351, a difference of 0.85% , which there is probable reason for. The Skyhawk phaser weapons do not show Diffuse for the phasers and has Scatter for the phaser 1!
big_smile
If anyone would like a png for the Skyhawk let me know
Paul

  • From: Denver, CO
  • Registered: 2005-03-27
  • Posts: 3,578

Re: Plasma F

Yes. The Skyhawk in RA is clearly wrong. I will upload a corrected version -- but I'll wait until any other problems are also identified.

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

mj12games's Website

  • Registered: 2010-06-29
  • Posts: 82

Re: Plasma F

AAhhggg...  :evil: After OnG saying the War Eagle was good I went over my calcs once again and found my mistake. The Skyhawk is still way out but the rest are back within acceptable error. I can only put it down to calculator fatigue.

Perhaps I should play the game instead for a while big_smile.

Incidentally The Skyhawk is the only Romulan which does not have Fragile systems is that correct?
If you are going to provide corrections you might want to look at these

Kingon FD7 [wrong Disruptor overload Range]
Gorn JAWS DD [wrong Plasma G Attack dice]
Federation BISMARCK [Photon Overload is (Dfs/Dx3) should be (Dx3/Slw)]
Federation KIROV [Photon Torps are Dfs in both normal and overload]
Federation NEW JERSEY, which has dodgy Photon Torps [has 6 standard mounts, should theses be Dfs?]
Federation LEXINGTON [Photon Torps are Dfs in both normal and overload]
Kzinti DEATHDEALER [Disruptor overload traits are missing should be (Dx2/Slw)]

Now to go and set up a game and roll a few dice smile