Can the "Forward Only" restriction also be applied to turrets that can only be fired in the rear arc ("Rear Only"), in order to duplicate real world ships?
I'm assuming that it could, although not being familiar with any books past the first this may already be in place.
Kevin

I think part of the mis-perception with "forward only" is that the turrets may fire only in the forward arc.  Hence, the question about aft only...not necessarily thinking in terms of superstructure.

What WWI era Italian ships (or pre-dreadnought) did that?  Not the Dante or Cavour class BBs.  Not the Pisa armored cruiser.  Drawing a blank.

The new Italian ships for Southern Front have triple turrets -- and they're fast and thinly armored -- to try and reflect the designs of their wet navy ships circa 1911+

No, no, its just a joke. In WW2 Italian tanks were said to have one forward gear and four reverse gears, as they were supposed to retreat so eaily. Thats 0 for 2 for me--I made two jokes on this forum and both assumed I was serious. C'mon, you should know me better by now...:D

Indeed. The whole concept of the "dreadnought" was an all-big-gun battleship... it was supposed to make logistics and fire control easier, since you only had one size of shell to worry about, and all your guns fired at the same range and same ROF.

Personally, for Starships, I'd use the following progression:
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Support Craft - for tiny things like tugboats and service vehicles

FACs - anything that has an endurance of less than a day, that's half the size or smaller than an Escort

Gunship - anything that has an endurance of less than a day, that's larger than an escort.

Escorts - for DD's and FF's, unarmored or lightly armored ships with high speed and only secondary or smaller armament.

Heavy Tug - Escort sized or larger ship designed to move ships great distances, with endurances greater than a week.

Scouts - for small ships with large sensor suites, high speed, and long endurance.

Cruisers - lightly armored, fast ships with larger guns (ie Primaries) than an escort. Usually not as fast as an Escort.

Heavy Scout - basically a Light Cruiser with reduced armament to allow for greater speed and/or sensor suites.

Light Cruiser - Unarmored ships with Primary guns, as fast as escorts.

Heavy Cruiser - Slow, more heavily armored than a Cruiser, but not as armored as a Battleship - nor is it as heavily armed as a Battleship.

Dreadnought - Any Cruiser hull with primaries, but no secondaries. May be Light (no armor, fast as an escort), or Heavy (Slow, more armor)

Battleship - a ship with a mixed battery of Primary, Secondary, and Light guns to take on any type of combatant. Heavily Armored, usually slow.
Fast Battleships are possible. Second Class Battleships were built as Battleships, but downgraded as improved ships became available. Third Class Batteships were once Second Class, but are now considered obsolete, but still capable units.

Superdreadnought - any battleship that hasn't secondary guns - with Primaries of great caliber or number, or has a Keel Gun and no secondaries.

I'd delineate some more, but I've got to fix the mower and see how the other computer is getting along in defragging the disk....

Yeah,

I've been known to mislable ships for that reason, to confuse the enemy, not because I don't have a clue what the difference between a battleship and a cruiser is... yeah that's it!

(All I know about sea combat, I've learned from Milton Bradley's Historical Combat Simulation "Battleship"... as in "you sunk my...")

jim

This is correct.

But anything under 4" is considered a "light gun" in Iron Stars (and Grand Fleets, for that matter) -- they certainly don't constitute a "secondary battery" by any definition. Historically, they would have been all but useless against armoured targets.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleship … y_armament for a brief discussion of the topic.

Come on now... gamers are nothing if not annoyingly precise. When they want to be. And have nothing else to do. And think they know something about the subject.

Anyway, I still think it's a scary-looking design-- when can we play?

I just love bug bait.  :twisted:

*innocent look*