Topic: 2nd battle just completed

Hi
just finished our 2nd battle and myself and Andy (my long standing opponent) really like SX. We are both FT fans initially and don't want to get into the who's best argument. For our battles we use FT ships/background, FT movement (vector) and SX everything else.

Tonight was a 900 CR per side. Andy had 5 ships, I had 3. We used screens and there were no fighters or damage control/
Points to note
We think shields/screens a bit too powerfull. Love the screen allocation process but we think enforcing a screen value of 1 on each side and the rest to a max of 4 may be better. We had battleships with shields of 5 facing each other and not making a dent (each had a good mix of heavy/med/light laser combos)

Damage control is a bit too easy. We are thinking of one roll per 3 hull boxes of having a fixed roll (4+?) per hull box and then the fix roll.

Other than that, bloody brilliant. Love the game (combined wih certain FT elements).

In the morning I feel a need to order fighters and carriers from GZG (to match our 2 fleets)

Trouble is when are we going to get back to Armies of Arcana (the best fantasy mass combat rules going) ?............

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You cannot beat Armies of Arcana for fantasy, and you cannot beat Starmada for fast play starship combat.

.............Doug

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Inari7 wrote:

You cannot beat Armies of Arcana for fantasy, and you cannot beat Starmada for fast play starship combat.

.............Doug

Starmada being MJ12 - Here! Here!

AoA isn't... so plenty of room for debate.

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Trounce upon him with dastardly speed!

For the Masses is the BEST game EVER!

(AoA is A-ok though)

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After getting back into wargaming a year or two back, I returned to WHFB (used to play it way back when it was first produced). Soon decided I didn't like the new version and looked around for an alternative. AoA had got glowing reviews (which proved to be correct) and is really what WHFB should have become - similar mechanisms but based on common sense and some realism.

However, I'm always open to alternatives. Is there a basic copy of For the Masses that can be downloaded (like SX) or is there a review someone can point me at?

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yup, basic rules are at the link below

and a review here:
http://gamingreport.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=934

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If you want to play fantasy skirmish Ares also a MJXII product is the best.

................Doug

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thanks I'll have a read of the demo rules and let you know what I think. If they are as good at SX they'll be good. I am an AoA fan though so they'll have to be really something to make me change  lol

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Starhound wrote:

thanks I'll have a read of the demo rules and let you know what I think. If they are as good at SX they'll be good. I am an AoA fan though so they'll have to be really something to make me change  lol

Except that ARES and AoA are two completely different games.
ARES is a skirmish game, while AoA is a mass combat game.
So I don't think it would be a matter of choosing one over the other.
Kevin

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underling wrote:

Except that ARES and AoA are two completely different games.
ARES is a skirmish game, while AoA is a mass combat game.
So I don't think it would be a matter of choosing one over the other.
Kevin

I believe he's talking about For the Masses...

But you should try ARES too. smile

Daniel Kast
Majestic Twelve Games
cricket@mj12games.com

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Ares rocks... we played many games of Ares and the magic system there influenced For the Masses as well

And written with a great tone and funny point of view as well.