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Do weapons that Ignore shields also ignore PD? (The rules say "This weapon's penetration dice automatically get through the targets shields."- implying that no Pen roll is needed, therefore bypassing PD)
If there is still a Pen roll, (allowing PD to stop 50% of the hits) does that mean that a weapon with Increased Pen and Ignores shields would roll Pen vs a 0 shield? (Potentialy doing 7x damage on a roll of 6)
Do weapons that Ignore shields also ignore PD? (The rules say "This weapon's penetration dice automatically get through the targets shields."- implying that no Pen roll is needed, therefore bypassing PD)
Short answer -- no. Ignores shields has no effect on PDS.
I can see why the wording of the ability might confuse you, tho.
Ok, that is what we thought with PD,
What about the other question? If a weapon with Ignores Shields and Increased Penetration hits, is there a pen roll vs a 0 shield?
What about the other question? If a weapon with Ignores Shields and Increased Penetration hits, is there a pen roll vs a 0 shield?
Yes.
Which is why, if your opponent isn't packing ionic shielding, increased DMG and Ignores Shields can be potentially fatal for the opponent...:)
As we speak, I am designing a task force around those beautiful, big ship killing weapons. ( and eagerly awaiting my fleetpack from Brigade)
btw- is that Taunton MA ?
No--Taunton, Somerset, Great Britain. Only a few thousand miles out...:D
AHHH, yes, that is a bit too far for a game. Unfortunate, Taunton MA USA, is about 30 miles from here, and very close to where a few of my droogs still live.
You'll have to help me out here--which state is MA?
Taunton, Massachusetts.
Same state as Cape Cod... East Coast of US.
I used to live in New Bedford as a teenager.....LOL
John
I thought it was...
If I wanted a Marine Squad to have an upgraded Boarding Pod (say speed 12, attacks on a 4+ and halves shields), does the following look correct?
ORat & DRat = 40 (Base Value) / 0.33 (getting rid of 5+ to-hit) x 0.5 (adding 4+ to-hit) x 1.2 (speed 12) x 1.8 (Halves Shields).
or: 40 / 0.33 x 0.5 x 1.2 x 1.8 = 130.909 = 131?
If I wanted a Marine Squad to have an upgraded Boarding Pod (say speed 12, attacks on a 4+ and halves shields), does the following look correct?
ORat & DRat = 40 (Base Value) / 0.33 (getting rid of 5+ to-hit) x 0.5 (adding 4+ to-hit) x 1.2 (speed 12) x 1.8 (Halves Shields).
or: 40 / 0.33 x 0.5 x 1.2 x 1.8 = 130.909 = 131?
Again, you need to consider the square root effect. Also, range is not a prime factor in the equation -- it is added to the range of the "weapons", which in the case of boarding pods is 1. Thus, the formula should be:
40 / (0.33)^.5 x (0.5)^.5 x ((12+1)/(10+1))^.5 x (1.8 )^.5 = 71.8, rounded to 72.
Do weapons that Ignore shields also ignore PD? (The rules say "This weapon's penetration dice automatically get through the targets shields."- implying that no Pen roll is needed, therefore bypassing PD)
If there is still a Pen roll, (allowing PD to stop 50% of the hits) does that mean that a weapon with Increased Pen and Ignores shields would roll Pen vs a 0 shield? (Potentialy doing 7x damage on a roll of 6)
Correct me if I'm wrong.. but against a 0 shield, the roll needed to pierce the shield is 1.. so the 1 would do normal damage, and the 6 would do x6 damage.
Thats quoting from the book example, where a roll of 5 against a level 4 screen does normal damage, and a roll of 6 does double.
Correct me if I'm wrong.. but against a 0 shield, the roll needed to pierce the shield is 1.. so the 1 would do normal damage, and the 6 would do x6 damage.
Thats quoting from the book example, where a roll of 5 against a level 4 screen does normal damage, and a roll of 6 does double.
You are not wrong.
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