I got the Defiance book for free a while back when one of the guys that works at an LGS said he would probably never have time to use it.

We were discussing print-on-demand services, and he pulled it out to say "See this is a P.O.D., and it's good quality."

My response was "Ooh, is that Defiance?" I'd never actually seen the book.

His response- "Yeah, you want it?"

It's MJ12, so guess what the answer was? The same guy said he'd be interested in checking out Ares, so hopefully I can round up a few opponents for both.