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2010-11-15 22:54:57

Imperial Atlantic Heavy Cruiser (1, 092 CR). All systems are TL +4 (*.50 SU). This is the Strategic version.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 15 14 13 12 11* 10 9 8 7 6* 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 5 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 3 2 2 2 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): [2/2/3/II] [2/2/3/II] [2/2/3/II] [2/2/3/II] [2/2/3/II] [2/2/2/II] [2/2/2/II] [2/2/2/II] [1/1/2/I] [1/1/2/I] [1/1/1/I] [1/1/1/I] [1/1/1/I] [1/1/1/I] [1/1/1/I].

Weapons (5, 6): 1: WY, 2: XZ, 3: XZ, 4: XZ, 5: Y, 6: Y.

Black Globe Level II (Radiate: 3): 4 3* 2 1.

Battery W: Spinal Meson Gun (Kinetic): 1-8/9-16/---, 3/3+/2/1, Slow-Firing; Carronade; Variable Damage.

[G]

Battery X: Nuclear Missles (Ballistic): 1-6/7-12/13-18, 1/3+/2/3, Starship-Exclusive.

Alternative Mode: Size: 5, Speed: 10, Attack: 4+/5+/6+, Defense: 0.

Ammunition: 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

[ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF]

Battery Y: Lasers (Energy): 1-6/7-12/---, 4/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits.

[GHI] [JKL] [GHI] [JKL] [GHJ] [GIK]

Battery Z: Particle Accelerators (Energy): 1-6/7-12/---, 1/3+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits, Starship-Exclusive.

[AB] [GH] [GI] [JL] [KL] [AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (200); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Fuel (80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1); Hyperdrive (16: Hyper Range: 4); Sandcasters (22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 49, Maintenance: 47/6 ~ 8, Defensive Value: 15, Anti-Ship: 20, Anti-Fighter: 5, Command Rating: 7, Command Cost: 3; Hyperdrive (16).

As these ships usually do not have access to a Black Globe, they will have a total of 262 extra Space Units for auxilliary services and their Combat Rating will be reduced to 689 CR. Their VBAM Cost will be reduced to 46 and their VBAM Defensive Value will be reduced to 10.

2010-11-15 22:16:52

Look under the topic "Langston Field". I will probably post other House Rules attempts at conversions to Starmada AE here. Those that I have made so far are too far from the normal rules to be put in the Bourbaki Basin. Oddly, I am finding Traveller even more limiting in the choice of weapons than the Armada books.

2010-11-15 22:08:16

I have spent enough time this weekend, subjecting ships with Black Globes to intense Weapon's Fire, to know that Black Globes, Langston Fields, and Space Patrol Battlescreens are all weaker defenses than the standard Starmada Shield. They start off strong, absorbing all damage like Ablat does. After a few turns, they are depleted and act thereafter like a Threshold Shield, trimming off a few points of Damage every Turn. Unlike the consistant performance of the standard Shield, they fail rapidly under heavy fire.

Critical points are necessary to keep them from being invulnerable to fire that inflicts only a few Damage points per Turn.

While I think that they are weaker than standard Shields, I have not been able to come up with a better way to cost them than to treat them as standard Shields for purposes of calculating Space Unit costs and Defensive Rating. I have found that it is an error to sum them with standard Shields for purposes of calculation. This makes the DRAT spuriously high. It is necessary to calculate Energy Absorbers and standard shields separately and add the results.

Being something of an E.E. Smith fan, I would say that Space Patrol Battlescreens would be much like the Langston Field (not interferring with Thrust or Weapons Fire), but would radiate away Damage at the maximum rate (5) independent of the ship's Hull size.

Farscape Ablative screens would be rather like Black Globes that could be only Fully On or Fully Off.Larger ships in this background would have multiple Ablative screens. Only one of these could be active at any time.

I am surprised that someone hasn't already done this for the Shadow ships in Babylon 5.

Well, I think that this is about all that I have to say on this subject. We will have to wait until the Armada books get around to the Andromedans to find out how Starmada properly treats Damage Absorbers.

2010-11-12 20:22:31

The thought occurred to me that this might be a useable way to represent the Black Globe in Traveller/Starmada AE Conversions. I spent a fair chunk of Memorial Day trying to convert a cruiser without doing too much violence to the Rules and Spirit of Starmada.

While this ship does not usually have a Black Globe, I gave it one fit to its size (and it much needs it as this ship is somewhat weak in defenses for a cruiser in this background).

Zhodani Consulate Vrapkenchkinj Light Battlecruiser (704 CR). All systems are TL +4 (*.50 SU in the house rules that I am using for this conversion).This has been corrected to the Strategic version.

Hull (1, 3, 5); 9 8 7* 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1. ( I am using consumable fuel for the Engines. Think of it as being like Ammo for a Weapon Battery. Fire an Engine, mark off a point of fuel. While a careless player might run himself out of fuel, he could double an Engine's Thrust just by paying 2 fuel and not (if your House Rules are generous) have to roll dice to see if he has destroyed an Engine by Overload).

Black Globe ( it takes damage on the Shield Track): 9 8 7* 6 5 4* 3 2 1. (The asterisks mark the points where Damage is considered to leak. When the Black Globe Track absorbs Damage at 7 or 4, mark the Damage against the ship as well.)

Shields (3, 4): [2/1/2/III] [2/1/2/III] [2/1/2/III] [2/1/2/II] [2/1/2/II] [1/1/1/II] [1/1/1/I] [1/1/1/I] [1/1/1/I].(I am using the Kinetic/Energy/Ballistic Shields from the VBAM/Starmada books. If rolling for Impact of a Kinetic Weapon against the Shields, use the first figure in brackets. If rolling for Impact of an Energy Weapon against the Shields, use the second figure in brackets. If rolling for Impact of a Ballistic (or Guided, if you prefer the term) Weapon, use the third figure in brackets. The Roman Numerals at the end tell you what Level your Black Globe is at.)

Weapons (5, 6): 1: WY, 2: XY, 3: XZ, 4: XZ, 5: XZ, 6: Y.

Battery W: Spinal Meson Gun (Kinetic): 1-8/9-16/---, 4/3+/2/1, Slow-Firing; Carronade; Variable Damage.

[G]

Battery X: Nuclear Missles (Ballistic): 1-6/7-12/13-18, 1/3+/2/3.

Alternate Mode: Nuclear Missles (Ballistic): Size: 5, Speed: 10, Attack: 4+/5+/6+, Defense: 0.

[ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF] [ABCDEF]

Ammo: 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

This is a slightly reworked Plasma S Torpedo from Romulan Armada. I simply increased the Range; removed the Trait Slow-Firing; and made it an Ammunition- Limited Weapon. This should be close enough to work for the purpose. It may be used as a Direct-Fire Weapon or as a Drone Flight. You will probably need to read the Rules from Romulan Armada to properly use these.

Battery Y: Lasers (Energy): 1-6/7-12/---, 1/4+/1/1, Carronade; Increased Hits.

[GHJ] [GHI] [GIK] [JKL]

Battery Z: Energy Blasters (Energy): 1-2/3-4/5-6, 1/2+/1/1, Increased Hits.

[GHI] [GHI] [JKL] [JKL]

These represent the Short-Range Fusion and Plasma Weapons in this background.

Before I proceed to the Special Equipment, I need to explain a few House Rules. The Black Globe has three settings. Fully on, it absorbs all damage until it is full. It radiates away no Damage, when it is fully on. No Engine Thrust may be used, when it is fully on. No Weapons may be fired, nor may anything be launched, when the Black Globe is fully on. Half on (50% Blink Rate), it absorbs half of the Damage (rounded up) scored against the ship. It radiates away a amount of Damage dependent on the ship's Hull Size (square root of 9 is 3), halved (rounding up or, in this case, 2) at the end of the Turn. Only half (rounded up) of the ship's Engine Thrust may be used, when the Black Globe is half on. Weapons fire at half (rounded up) of their normal rate when a Black Globe is half on. Launches and recoveries take place at half the normal rate *rounded up) when the Black Globe is half on.Turned off, it absorbs no Damage and radiates it away at the maximum rate (3 in this instance). Thrust may be applied normally, when the Black Globe is off. Damage against the Black Globe proceeds as in the previous post.

Sandcasters are Expendable Directional Counter-Measures. A Directional Counter-Measure is one that gives a -1 to any To-Hit Roll made against its ship from a single bearing (as opposed to Conventional Counter-Measures that give this protection from any direction). A Directional Counter-Measure should cost about 1 % of the Hull Space Units. An Expendable Counter- Measure is one that lasts only a single Turn. Knowing the Space Unit cost of a Directional Counter-Measure, I can apply the procedure used for Ammunition-Limited Weapons to determine the cost in Space Units of a single Sandcaster. The only important thing to know about Sandcasters is that each one defends your ship (by reducing your enemy's chance To-Hit) for only a single Turn and only from fire from a single direction.

Hyperdrive Ratings are determined by the square root of the number of Hyperdrives (this ship would travel 3 Strategic Hexes in 1 Strategic Turn). Each Hyperdrive is fueled separately each Strategic Turn. That would limit this ship to, at most, 4 Strategic Turns of Hyperspace travel before it needed to re-fuel.

Special Equipment: Boarding Pods (1: 13 Capacity; Launch: 2, Recover: 2); Cargo (200); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Fuel (36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1); Hyperdrive (9: Hyper Range: 3); Marines (6); Sandcasters (10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1). This has 30 Space Units to use for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics;

Cost: 33, Maintenance: 14/3 ~ 5, Defensive Value: 9, Anti-Ship: 17, Anti-Fighter: 3, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 1; Gunship; Hyperdrive.

Since the Black Globe is a rare technical resource in this background (with a substantial Strategic Cost), most ships of this class do not carry one. This leaves an extra 207 Space Units for auxilliary systems and reduces the Combat Rating to 469 CR. The VBAM Cost would drop to 30, and the VBAM Defensive Value would drop to 7.

2010-11-10 23:31:09

My opinion Is that this would be costed similarly to a standard shield. A 25 point Langston Field would cost the same as a Level 5 Shield. A 16 point Langston Field would cost the same as a Level 4 Shield. A 9 point Langston Field would cost the same as a Level 3 Shield. A 4 point Langston Field would cost the same as a Level 2 Shield. A single point Langston Field would cost the same as a Level 1 Shield.

All damage inflicted is absorbed by the Field until the Field is loaded.It would release Damage before it took Fire in the nextTurn.It should have a separate track to record this. Any remaining damage is resolved normally against the ship. It absorbs both Damage points from Double Damage Weapons, the extra Damage points from Extra Hull Damage Weapons, Increased Damage points, and Continuing Damage points (though these still have to be rolled for normally).

Shield Hits Would be resolved against a Shield Track just the same as a Standard Shield. When the Shield Track drops to a lower Level, resolve the difference in held Damage against the ship.

To Illustrate, presume a ship with a 25 point Langston Field. When it has absorbed more than its capacity in Damage, the remaining Damage would be rolled normally. Any shield Damage rolled would be marked off on the Shield Track. If the last 5 was marked off the Shield Track, then 9 Damage (25 - 16) would also be rolled against the ship. If this should cause the last 4 to be marked off the Shield Track, then 7 Damage (16 - 9) would be rolled against the ship.

This would be slightly less dangerous to its user than the Langston Field in the novel, but it would make sense in Starmada terms. It should be costed in DRAT in the same way that standard Shields are. It might take some adjustment of the point values at each Level to make this balanced against standard shields.

I do not know whether you were intending to use this with standard Shields or whether you intended to make them mutually exclusive. Either could probably be made to work, though a ship with both would be somewhat complex. One would have to roll to see if a Hit Penetrated the Shields, and then let it be absorbed by the Field. Also, the total Level of Field plus Shield would need to be limited. I don't know how to figure DRAT for a Level higher than 8.

As to whether this will be more, equally or less effective than standard Shields, my quess would be that it would depend on the size of the ship. It would seem to function a bit like a Regenerative Ablat. Is this a good idea? I don't know, try playing a few games with it and see if it is fun.

2010-11-09 22:35:08

Kay S-4 (Mender) class Model B Repair Tender (186 CR). All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 9 8 7* 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 1, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Z: KD-14 (Energy): 1-2/3-4/5-6, 1/3+/2/5.

[ABHJ] [ABIK] [EFHJ] [EFIK]

Special Equipment: Cargo (110); Construction (300); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Landing Capability (Anti-Gravity Landing and Streamlined); Marines (2); Passengers (10); Repair (300); Shuttles (2: 16 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports (2); Warp Drive. This has 26 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 22, Maintenance: 14/3 ~ 5, Defensive Value: 6, Anti-Ship: 9, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3; Carrier; Construction (30); Repair (30); Warp Drive.

Kay S-5 (Healer) class Model A Repair Tender (164 CR). All Systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

(1, 2): 4 4 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 8 7 6 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Z: KD-2 (Energy): 1-5/6-10/---, 1/4+/1/5, Carronade.

[ABHIJK] [ABHIJK]

Special Equipment: Cargo (300); Construction (100); Critical Hit Save (5+); Damage Control (2 dice); Marines (2); Repair (200); Shuttles (10: 80 Capacity; Launch: 2, Recover: 1); Teleports (2); Warp Drive. This has 14 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 18, Maintenance: 5/2 ~ 3, Defensive Value: 5, Anti-Ship: 5, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 3, Basing: 10; Carrier; Construction (10); Repair (20); Warp Drive.

2010-11-09 22:10:38

Eff Pearl class Mark I Mobile Repair Facility (225 CR), All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 12 11 10 9* 8 7 6 5* 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 7 7 6 6 5 5 4 3 3 2 2 1.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (700); Construction (600); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Marines (2); Repair (600); Shuttles (18: 144 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports (2); Warp Drive. There are only 10 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 11, Maintenance: 19/6 ~ 4, Defensive Value: 8, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 18; Carrier; Warp Drive.

It is clear that one of these would have to be accompanied by at least one freighter if any considerable repair work needed to be done.

2010-11-09 21:58:59

Eff Cle Dan class Mark I Repair Tender (80 CR). All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 9 8 7* 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 8 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Facets : F: 2, FP; 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (400); Construction (200); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Marines (1); Shuttles (4: 32 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports (1); Repair (600); Warp Drive. This has 71 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 8, Maintenance: 2, Defensive Value: 6, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: Command Cost: 3, Basing: 4; Carrier; Warp Drive.

2010-11-09 20:17:05

You will note that I have retained the auxilliary service: Construction Bay. While this has no tactical importance in Starmada AE, it is of strategic importance in my house rules. I consider that a Repair Bay repairs systems (Engines, Shields, Special Equipment, and Weapons) at a cost of 10 Cargo per system and at a rate determined by repair Capacity/10. To give a example, a Repair Bay with a capacity of 200 would repair 20 systems per Strategic Turn at a cost of 200 Cargo per Strategic Turn. I count a Construction Bay ( in addition to its obvious function of constructing ships at a cost determined by their Combat Rating, their Tech Level, and the Tech Level of the Construction Bay) as repairing systems less efficently than a Repair Bay, but only a Construction Bay can repair Damage to Hull. For a Construction Bay to repair a system takes 10 Cargo and 20 Capacity per Turn. For a Construction Bay to repair Hull (or Ablat, if you use that House Rules option) takes 100 Cargo per point of Hull, but only 20 Capacity per Turn.

Eff Derf class Mark IV Tender (369 CR). All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 16 15 14 13* 12 11 10 9* 8 7 6 5* 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 10 10 9 9 8 7 7 6 5 5 4 4 3 2 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 14 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 3, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 3.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3:---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Z: FH-4 (Energy):

Co-Axial A: 1-7, 8-14/---, 2/3+/1/2, Carronade.

Co-Axial B: 1-7/8-14/---, 2/3+/1/1, Carronade; Range-Based Damage.

[ABHJ] [ABIK] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (350); Construction (200); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Marines (2); Passengers (10); Repair (600); Shuttles (5: 40 Capacity; Launch: 4, Recover: 2); Teleports (2); Warp Drive. This has

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 14, Maintenance: 10/3 ~ 4, Defensive Value: 10, Anti-Ship: 12, Anti-Fighter: 2, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 5, Basing: 5; Carrier; Warp Drive.

2010-11-08 22:53:55

These are usually the largest craft that the Alliance uses, though I have just found statistics for a larger ship (it would seem to be a unique Command Ship, so I needn't be in a hurry to work up a conversion for it). I had to trim the Weapons Batteries on these severely to accomodate the required Carrier Capacity.

Rebel Alliance MC 80 (1585 CR). All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 24 23 22 21 20 19* 18 17 16 15 14 13* 12 11 10 9 8 7* 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 20 20 19 18 17 16 15 15 14 13 12 11 10 10 9 8 7 6 5 5 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 4, FP: 3, FS: 3, AP: 3, AS: 3, A: 4.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Y, 2: Y, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Y: Dual Turbolasers (Energy): 1-4/5-8/---, 4/4+/1/2, Carronade; Increased Hits.

[AB] [HJ] [IK] [CEF] [DEF]

Battery Z: Ion Cannons (Energy): 1-3/4-6/7-9, 3/5+/1/4, No Hull Damage; Ignores Shields.

[ABC] [ABD] [HJ] [IK] [EF]

Special Equipment: Carrier (900 Capacity; Launch: 4, Recover: 2); Cargo (160); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Hyperdrive; Rebel Militia (12). This has no Space Units left.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 23, Maintenance: 13/3 ~ 5, Defensive Value: 18, Anti-Ship: 15, Anti-Fighter: 7, Command Rating: 9, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 8; Hyperdrive.

I based the Carrier capacity on 6 Flights of Y-Wings and 2 Flights of Lambda class Shuttles.

Here are some fighters to put on board.

A-Wing : Size 6, Speed 15, Defense: 1; Capacity (69).

Fighter: Attack: 5+; Rof 3; Impact 2.

Striker: Attack: 4+; ROF 2; Impact 2.

B-Wing: Size 6, Speed: 9, Defense: 3; Capacity (235).

Fighter: Attack: 4+; ROF 3; Impact 3.

Striker: Attack: 3+; ROF 3; Impact 3.

Used as an Independent vessel with an R-2 Unit to run the Hyperdrive, this would cost 259 CR.

X-Wing: Size: 6, Speed: 12, Defense: 2; Capacity (202).

Fighter: Attack: 5+; ROF 3; Impact 2; Damage 2.

Striker: Attack: 3+; ROF 3; Impact 2.

Used as an independent Hyperdrive capable unit, this would cost 223 CR.

Y-Wing: Size: 6, Speed: 10, Defense: 2; Capacity (130).

Fighter: Attack: 6+; ROF 3; Impact 3.

Striker: Attack: 3+; ROF 3; Impact 2.

As an independent Hyperdrive capable unit, this would cost 143 CR.

Z-93 Headhunter: Size: 6, Speed: 10, Defense: 1; Capacity (75).

Fighter: Attack: 6+; ROF 3.

Striker: Attack: 4+; ROF 2; Impact 2.

With an R-2 unit to operate and maintain an independent Hyperdrive Capability, this would cost 83 CR.

2010-11-05 19:33:24

Arr H-2 (Praetor) class Type 2 Warpshuttle ( CR 0). All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 1.

Engines (1,2): 10.

Shields (3, 4): 5.

Facets: F: 1, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 0.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5; ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (10); Damage Control (1 die); Passengers (10); Warp Drive. This has 30 Space units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 0, Maintenance: 1/3, Defensive Value: 1, Anti-Ship: 0, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command rating: 2, Command Cost: 1; Warp Drive.

Arr H-5 (Ras Lovah) class Type 3 Warpshuttle (9 CR). All systems are Tl +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 15 8.

Shields (3, 4): 5 3.

Facets: F: 1, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 0.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (20); Damage control (1 die); Marines (1); Passengers (20); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has 86 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 3, Maintenance: 1/3, Defensive Value: 2, Anti-Ship: 0, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 2, Command Cost: 2; Warp Drive.

2010-11-04 21:58:35

Nomad wrote:

JohnRobert wrote:
As long as you are using just a few large ships, these games are usually settled in about 5 turns ( though the turns are somewhat long due to the large number of dice to be rolled).
Yeah, I meant in hours. d:

With most of the large ships, 20 to 25 minutes was long enough for a turn. Last night , I tried playing with these (2 Victory class Type II Star Destroyers and 1 Imperious class Type II Star Destroyer on each side). 6 turns later, 5 hours had passed. At this point, with one side having a Victory II with 12 Hull left and 22 Flights of T.I.E. Fighters versus an Imperious II with 12 Hull left, an intact Victory II, a Victory II with 6 Hull left, and 7 Flights of T.I.E. Fighters, I gave up. Those 22 Flights of T.I.E. Fighters might still have won it, but rolling that many dice is too tiresome. Indeed, all the dice rolling that having hundreds of fighters with ROF 3 on the board is the big defect with this background. The clutter on the board can be much eased by having a single marker represent a Wing of many Flights (eight Wings representing seven Flights of six in the present case). You could even use a single marker to represent a Squadron of many Wings.

As advice to anyone playing with these things:

1:The fighter is your deadliest weapon.

2: The fighter is your best defense.

3: Take the time to work up a statistical chart and avoid rolling dice for fighters.

Look at this chart for the standard T.I.E. Fighter (also assuming no Armor-Plating or Counter-measures on the opposing ship(Those would require charts of their own)).

Level of Shield on Facing of Opposing Craft: 5---4---3---2---1---0.

Number of Flights: 1.......Resulting Damage:1...2...3...4...5...6.

.......................2............................2...4...6...8...10..12.

.......................3............................3...6...9...12..15..18.

.......................4............................4...8..12...16..20..24.

.......................5............................5..10..15..20..25..30.

.......................6............................6..12..18..24..30..36.

.......................7............................7..14..21..28..35..42.

For any large number of fighters, a chart like this will (very probably) give the same result as rolling the dice To-Hit and for Impact, and it will save you much time.

2010-11-03 21:17:23

Kay W-2 (Koreba) class Model C Warpshuttle (53 CR). All systems are TL+4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 3 2.

Shields (3, 4): 12 6.

Facets: F: 2, FP; 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: Z.

Battery Z: KD-2 (Energy): 1-5/6-10/---, 1/4+/1/5, Carronade.

[AB] [AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (30); Damage Control (1 die); Marines (1); Passengers (10); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has 53 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 6, Maintenance: 1/2, Defensive Value: 3, Anti-Ship: 3, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 2, Command Cost: 2; Warp Drive.

Kay W-2 (Koreba) class Model F Warpshuttle (50 CR). All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 7 4.

S(3, 4): 8 4.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: z.

Battery Z: KD-3 (Energy): 1-4/5-8/9-12, 1/3+/2/3.

[AB] [AB]

Special Equipment: Cargo (30); Damage Control (1 die); Landing Capability (Streamlined); Marines (1); Passengers (10); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has 27 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 6, Maintenance: 1/2, Defensive Value: 2, Anti-Ship: 5, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 2, Command Cost: 2; Landing Capability; Warp Drive.

Kay W-4 (Speedstar) class Model B Warpshuttle (57 CR). All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 10 7 4.

Shields (3, 4): 8 6 3.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1; Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Battery Z: KD-2 (Energy): 1-5/6-10/---, 1/4+/1/5, Carronade.

[ABHJ] [ABIK]

Special Equipment;Cargo (30); Damage Control (1 die); Marines (1); Passengers (20); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has 97 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 5,Maintenance: 2/3, Defensive Value: 3, Anti-Ship: 5, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 3, Command Cost: 2; Warp Drive.

2010-11-03 19:26:12

Eff Greyhound class Mark I Warpshuttle/Courier (9 CR). All systems are TL +4. Hull (1, 3, 5): 1 2.

Engines (1, 2): 12 6.

Shields (3, 4): 8 4.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (10); Damage Control (1 die); Landing Capacity (Streamlined); Marines (1); Passengers (20); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has 86 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 3, Maintenance: 3/6 ~ 1, Defensive Value: 2, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 2, Command Cost: 2; Landing Capability; Warp Drive.

The Greyhound class Mark IV Warpshuttle/Courier has the same statistics except for Cargo (20) and Passengers (10).

Eff Pulsar class Mark I Warpshuttle (10 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 2 1.

Engines (1,2): 7 4.

Shields (3, 4): 12 6.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (20); Damage Control (1 die); Landing Capability; Marines (1); Passengers (20); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has 86 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 3, Maintenance: 3/6 ~ 1, Defensive Value: 3, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 2, Command Cost: 2; Landing Capability, Warp Drive.

Eff Pulsar class Mark II Warpshuttle (43 CR). All systems are TL +4.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 7 4.

Shields (3, 4): 12 6.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: Z, 2: Z, 3: Z, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6; Z.

Battery Z: FH-1 (Energy): 1-4/5-8/---, 1/3+/1/2, Carronade.

[ABHIJK] [EFHIJK]

Special Equipment: Cargo (20); Damage Control (1 die); Landing Capability (Streamlined); Marines (1); Passengers (10); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has 36 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 5, Maintenance: 3/6 ~ 1, Defensive Value: 3, Anti-Ship: 4, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 2, Command Cost: 2; Landing Capability; Warp Drive.

2010-11-02 21:34:19

Arr J-8 (Moorabin) class Type 1 Transport. All systems are TL +4.

Type 4 Cargo Pod (0 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 15 14 13 12 11* 10 9 8 7 6* 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): ---.

Shields (3, 4): ---.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (3, 000: 4 Cargo Cans); Clamps: Size 15 (4) and Size 5 (48); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 3, Maintenance: 3, Defensive Value: 8, Anti-Ship: 0, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 7, Command Cost: 3; Supply (3).

Loaded J-8 ( Moorabin) class Type 1 Transport (103 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 18(5) 17 16 15 14(4) 13 12 11 10(3) 9 8 7(2) 6 5 4 3(1) 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 2(17) 2 2 2 2(14) 2 2 2(11) 2 1 1 1(7) 1 1 1(4) 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 9(22) 9 8 8 7(7) 7 6 6(14) 5 5 4 4(9) 3 3 2(5) 2 1 1.

Facets: F: 1, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (3010: Type 4 Cargo Pod and 10 Capacity); Clamps: Size 15 (4) and Size 5 (4); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Engine Governors (5 Thrust); Fixed Shield Emitters (9 Shield Facets); Marines (3); Shuttles (3: 24 Capacity; Launch: 4, Recover: 2); Teleports (3); Warp Drive.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 13, Maintenance: 11/3 ~ 4, Defensive Value: 11, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 3; Carrier; Supply (3); Warp Drive.

Unloaded J-8 (Moorabin) class Type 1 Transport (62 CR).

Hull (12, 3, 5); 5 4 3* 2 1.

Engines (1, 2); 17 14 11 7 4.

Shields (3, 4): 22 18 14 9 5.

Facets: F: 1, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---,5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (10); Clamps: Size 5 (4); Critical Hit Save (5+); Damage Control (2 dice); Engine Governors (5 Thrust); Fixed Shield Emitters (9 Shield Facets); Marines (3); Shuttles (3: 24 Capacity; Launch: 2, Recover: 1); Teleports (3); Warp Drive. This has 61 Space Units for auxilliary services.

VBAM STATistics:

Cost: 6, Maintenance: 7/6 ~ 2, Defensive Value: 4, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 4, Command Cost: 2, Basing: 3; Carrier; Warp Drive.

2010-11-02 20:36:45

Nomad wrote:

I agree that 40 hull is just kind of insane. JR, do you ever actually play with ships this huge? If so, how long do such games take?

I have done so, though mostly with conversions of Renegade Legion: Leviathan. As long as you are using just a few large ships, these games are usually settled in about 5 turns ( though the turns are somewhat long due to the large number of dice to be rolled). These big fellows dish out enough damage to destroy even something as large as themselves in a few turns.

Somewhat off subject, I was surprised to find that though the numerous lasers on a Leviathan ship are considered to be the Main Batteries, it is the Missle Bays (intended as an expendable, ammunition-based secondary weapon) that actually do most of the Damage. Of course, it is possible that I misunderstood the statistics in the source material and made the Missle Packs (I can't remember the proper terminology for the setting) too strong.

I am not sure that I would like to try playing with this large a Carrier (at least not with more than one ship to a side). All those fighters seem likely to slow things down.

2010-11-01 21:05:23

This is a large ship. It is larger than some fleets. I tried to keep it a still playable one, while keeping as close as I could to the source material.

Galactic Empire: Imperator class Type II Star destroyer (2, 775 CR). All systems are TL 0.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33* 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25* 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17* 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9* 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 21 21 20 20 19 19 18 18 17 17 16 16 15 15 14 14 13 13 12 12 11 10 10 9 9 8 8 7 7 6 6 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1.

Facets: F: 4, FP: 4, FS: 4, AP: 3, AS: 3, A: 3.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: U, 2: V, 3: W, 4: X, 5: Y, 6: Z.

Battery U: Octal Turbolaser Battery (Energy): 1-5/6-10/---, 3/4+/1/2, Carronade; Anti-Fighter; Increased Hits.

[ACE] [BDF] [ACE] [BDF]

Battery V: Octal Turbolaser Battery (Energy): 1-5/6-10/---, 3/4+/1/2, Carronade; Anti-Fighter; Increased Hits.

[ACE] [BDF] [ACE] [BDF]

Battery W: Triple Ion Cannons (Energy): 1-2/3-4/5-6, 4/5+/1/3, No Hull Damage; Ignores Shields.

[AB] [HJ] [IK] [EF]

Battery X: Forward Heavy Turbolasers (Energy): 1-6/7-12/---, 4/5+/1/3, Slow-Firing; Carronade; Increased Hits.

[ABC] [ABD] [AB] [AC] [BD]

Battery Y: Rear Heavy Turbolasers (Energy): 1-6/7-12/---, 4/5+/1/3, Slow-Firing; Carronade; Increased Hits.

[EF] [HJ] [IK] [EF]

Battery Z: Quad Laser Turrets (Energy): 1/2/3, 3/3+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

[GHI] [ACE] [JKL] [BDF] [GHI]

Special Equipment: Armor Plating; Carrier (1, 316: Launch: 5, Recover: 3); Cargo (490); Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (5 dice); Hyperdrive; Stormtroopers (12). This has only 2 Space Units left. The original drawing had 5 Tractor beams.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 31, Maintenance: 20/3 ~ 7, Defensive Value: 30, Anti-Ship: 19, Anti-Fighter: 13, Command Rating: 12, Command Cost: 5, Basing: 15; Hyperdrive.

For those of you who would penalize this ship for excessive Hull Size by adding +1 to any To-Hit Roll against it, the Combat rating would be reduced to 2, 463 CR, the VBAM Cost would be reduced to 29, and the VBAM Defensive Rating would be reduced to 28.

The loadout for this would be 8 flights of T.I.E. Fighters, 2 flights of T.I.E. Bombers, 2 flights of T.I.E. Interceptors, 1 flight of Stormtrooper Transports, and 1 flight of Lamda class Shuttles.

2010-11-01 19:51:18

Arr J-4 Baydron class Type 1 Transport. All systems are TL +4.

Type 5 Cargo Pod (0 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 18 17 16 15 14* 13 12 11 10 9* 8 7 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): ---.

Shields (3, 4): ---.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (3750: 5 Cargo Cans); Clamps: Size 18 (4) and Size 5 (60); Critical Hit Save ( 3+); Damage Control (4 dice).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 3, Maintenance: 7/3 ~ 4,Defensive Value: 10, Anti-Ship: 0, Anti- Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 4; Supply (3).

Loaded Baydron class Type 1 Transport (63 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 25(10) 24 23 22(9) 21* 20(8) 19 18 17(7) 16* 15(6) 14 13 12(5) 11* 10(4) 9 8 7(3) 6* 5(2) 4 3 2(1) 1.

Engines (1, 2): 4(19) 4 4(18) 4(17) 4(16) 4 4(15) 3(14) 3(13) 3 3(12) 3(11) 3(10) 2 2(9) 2(8) 2(7) 2 2(6) 1(5) 1(4) 1 1(3) 1(2) 1(1).

Shields (3, 4): 6(12) 6 6(11) 6 6 5(10) 5 5(9) 5 4(8) 4 4(7) 4 3(6) 3 3(5) 3 2(4) 2 2(3) 2 1(2) 1 1(1) 1.

Facets: F: 1, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (3810: Type 5 Cargo Pod and 60 Capacity); Clamps: Size 10 (4) and Size 18 (4); Critical Hit Save ( 2+); Damage Control (5 dice); Engine Governors (9); Fixed Shield Emitters (6 Shield Facets); Marines (1); Shuttles ( 1: 8 Capacity; Launch: 5, Recover: 3); Teleports (1); Warp Drive.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 11, Maintenance: 29/6 ~ 5, Defensive Value: 15, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 10, Command cost: 4, Basing: 1; Carrier; Supply (3); Warp Drive.

For those who penalize excessive Hull Size by making the ship +1 easier To-Hit, the Combat rating would be reduced to 52 CR.

Unloaded Baydron class Type 1 Transport (41 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 10 9 8 7* 6 5 4 3* 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 19 18 16 14 12 10 8 6 4 2.

Shields (3, 4): 12 11 10 9 8 6 5 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 1, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (60); Clamps: Size 10 (4); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Engine Governors (9); Fixed Shield Emitters (6 Shield Facets); Marines (1); Shuttles (1: 8 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. This has 166 extra Space Units for Auxilliary Systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 7, Maintenance: 13/6 ~ 3, Defensive Value: 7,Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0; Command rating: 6; Command Cost: 3, Basing: 1; Carrier; Warp drive.

2010-10-29 20:37:46

Arr J-3 (Starlifter) class Type 14 Freighter. All systems are TL +4.

Type 14 Cargo Pod (0 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32* 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24* 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16* 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8* 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): ---.

Shields (3, 4): ---.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo ( 10, 500: 14 Cargo Cans);Clamps: Size 39 (4) and Size 5 (168); Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (5 dice).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 10, Maintenance: 49/6 ~ 9, Defensive Value: 21, Anti-Ship: 0, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 12, Command Cost: 5; Supply (10).

Loaded J-3 (Starlifter) class Type 14 Freighter (101 CR ).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 50(18) 49 48 47(17) 46 45 44(16) 43 42 41(15) 40 39 38(14) 37 36(13) 35 34 33(12) 32 21 30(11) 29 28 27(10) 26 25(9) 24 23 22(8) 21 20 19(7) 18 17 16(6) 15 14 13(5) 12 11(4) 10 9 8(3) 7 6 5(2) 4 3 2(1) 1.

Engines (1, 2): 3(17) 3 3 3(16) 3 3 3(15) 3 3 3(14) 3 3 3(13) 3 3 3(12) 3 2 2(11) 2 2 2(10) 2 2 2(9) 2 2 2(8) 2 2 2(7) 2 2 2(6) 1 1 1(5) 1 1 1(4) 1 1 1(3) 1 1 1(2) 1 1 1(1) 1.

Shields (5, 6): 12(25) 12 12(24) 12 12(23) 11 11 11 11(21) 10 10(20) 10 10(19) 9 9 9 9(17) 8 8(16) 8 8 7 7(14) 7 7(13) 6 6(12) 6 6 6 5(10) 5 5(9) 5 4 4 4(7) 4 3(6) 3 3(5) 3 2 2 2(3) 2 1(2) 1 1 1.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (10, 510: Type 14 Cargo Pod and 10 Capacity); Clamps: Size 18 (4);Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (5 dice); Engine Governors (5); Fixed Shield Emitters (12 Shield Facets); Marines (1); Shuttles (1: 8 Capacity; Launch: 5, Recover: 3); Teleports (1); Warp Drive.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 20, Maintenance: 31/3 ~ 11, Defensive Value:27 Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 14, Command Cost: 5: Supply (10); Warp Drive.

Unloaded J-3 (Starlifter) class Type 14 Freighter (68 CR)

Hull (1, 3, 5): 18 17 16 15 14* 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 17 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Shields (3, 4): 25 24 23 21 20 19 17 16 14 13 12 10 9 8 7 6 5 3 2.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (10); Clamps: Size 18 (4); Critical Hit Save (3+): Damage Control (4 dice); Engine Governors (5); Fixed Shield Emitters (12 Shield Facets); Marines (1); Shuttles (1: 8 Capacity; Launch: 4, Recover: 2); Teleports (1); Warp Drive. There are 26 extra Space Units to use for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 9, Maintenance: 7/2 ~ 4, Defensive Value: 12 Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 4; Carrier; Warp Drive.

2010-10-28 22:21:45

Arr J-3 (Starlifter) Type 9 Freighter. All systems are TL +4.

Type 11 Cargo Pod (0 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): ---.

Shields (3, 4): ---.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (8, 250: 11 Cargo Cans); Clamps: Size 32 (4) and Size 5 (132); Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (5 dice).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 8, Maintenance: 20/3 ~ 7, Defensive Value: 17, Anti-Ship: 0, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 11, Command Cost: 4; Supply (10).

Loaded J-3 (Starlifter) class Type 9 Freighter (83 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 40(14) 39 38(13) 37 36 35(12) 34 33(11) 32 31 30(10) 29 28 27(9) 26 25 24 23(8) 22 21 20(7) 19 18 17(6) 16 15 14(5) 13 12 11(4) 10 9 8(3) 7 6 5(2) 4 3 2(1) 1.

Engines (1, 2): 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 7 7 6 6 6 6 6 5 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (8, 260: 10 Capacity and Type 11 Cargo Pod); Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (5 dice); Marines (1); Shuttles (1: 8 Capacity; Launch: 5, Recover: 3); Teleports (1); Warp Drive.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 18, Maintenance: 51/6 ~ 9, Defensive Value: 23, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 1, Command Rating: 12, Command Cost: 5, Basing: 1; Carrier; Supply (8); Warp Drive.

Unloaded J-3 (Starlifter) class Type 9 Freighter (50 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Engine (1, 2): 19 18 17 15 14 13 11 10 9 8 6 5 3 2.

Shields (3, 4): 17 16 15 14 13 11 10 9 8 7 5 4 3 2.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: cargo (10),; Clamps: Size 14 (4); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Marines (1); Shuttles (1: 8 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports (1); Warp Drive.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 7, Maintenance: 5/2 ~ 3, Defensive Value: 9, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 7, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 1: Carrier; Warp Drive.

2010-10-26 20:39:47

It is proving difficult to provide an acceptable conversion of the Victory Star Destroyer.There seem to be several types, some of which have Landing Capability (surprizing in such a large vessel). The following was listed as a version which traded much of its Defensive and Offensive Capabilities for a decent Engine Rating.

Victory class Type II Star Destroyer (1092 CR). All systems are TL 0.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 20 19 18 17 16* 15 14 13 12 11* 10 9 8 7 6* 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 16 16 15 14 13 12 12 11 10 9 8 8 7 6 5 4 4 3 2 1.

Facets: F: 4, FP: 3, FS: 3, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: X, 2: Y, 3: Y, 4: Z, 5: Z, 6: ---.

Battery X: Heavy Turbolaser (Energy): 1-6/7-12/---, 2/5+/1/3, Slow-Firing; Carronade; Increased Hits.

[AB] [ABC] [BDF]

Battery Y: Twin Turbolaser (Energy): 1-5/6-10/---, 2/5+/1/2, Carronade; Increased Hits.

[AB] [AC] [BD] [CE] [DF]

Battery Z: Triple Ion Cannon: 1-2/3-4/5-6, 1/5+/1/3, No Hull Damage; Ignores Shields.

[AB] [AC] [BD] [CE] [DF] [EF]

Special Equipment: Cargo (100); Carrier (658 Capacity); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Hyperdrive; Stormtroopers (30). This has 58 Space Units left for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 20, Maintenance: 11/3 ~ 4, Defensive Value: 14, Anti-Ship: 11, Anti-Fighter: 3, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 7; Hyperdrive.

The standard loadout for this ship is 4 Flights of T.I.E. Fighters and 1 Flight of Lambda Shuttles or 5 Flights of Assault Shuttles.

2010-10-26 20:02:27

In the VBAM/Starmada book: The Stars Divided: Terran Civil War, ships carried internally by a tender took a Capacity of their Hull size + 50% of their Hull size. It is a minor point, that needs to be settled by an arbitrary decision, whether this should have an additional cost in Space Units of 50% or 25%.

In the Starmada Compedium, there was a rule for towing vessels that should work just as well for composite vessels made of multiple Hulls. Multiply the Engine Value of each module by the Hull Size of that module, add the results for all modules with Engines, and divide by the sum of the Hull Sizes of all modules (including those without engines). This would give you the Engine Value for the Composite. Alternatively, you could consider the modules as components contained in a Hull whose size is large enough to contain them, sum the Space Unit cost for the Engines in all modules, and divide this (rounding down) by the Space Unit cost for a Engine for the containing Hull. This would also give a useful Engine Value for the composite.

In any case, Hold Capacity on a Tender should affect only the Space Unit cost. The Combat Rating of the contents should have no effect on the Combat Rating of the Tender (which, if it is unarmed, might well be zero).

2010-10-22 20:14:05

Yesterday, I took notes from the websites about this (mostly Ben Rubery's and Planetside:Ships of the Fleet). Since no one expects an Executor class Super Star Destroyer or a Death Star to be anything but a monstrosity that creeps slowly across the mat and can barely turn, I decided that the Imperial class Type I Star Destroyer is the largest ship that would reasonable. Anything bigger would simply display the megalomania of its builder, which fits the storyline, but is of little use to anyone trying to play with these ships. I have tryed to follow the original source as closely as possible, but I did push some Weapons Batteries together to save space and trim some Weapon Arcs to make them fit. I could have made this smaller by using a higher Tech Level, but I think that they would have built these as simple and cheap as they could.

Pardon me if I have to post this in short bursts by editing, the Library computer keeps logging me out of the Forum and deleting the post, if I attempt to write at length. I had this completed when it did this to me, and I am somewhat vexed.

Imperial class Type I Star Destroyer (1963 CR). All systems are TL 0.

Hull (1, 3, 5): 24 23 22 21 20 19* 18 17 16 15 14 13* 12 11 10 9 8 7* 6 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 17 17 16 15 15 14 13 13 12 11 10 10 9 8 8 7 6 5 5 4 3 3 2 1.

facets: F: 3, FP: 3, FS: 3, AP: 3, AS: 3, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: VZ, 2: WZ, 3: W, 4: X, 5: Y, 6: Y.

Battery V: Heavy Turbolaser (Energy): 1-6/7-12/---, 3/5+/1/3, Slow-Firing; Carronade; Increased Hits.

[ACE] [BDF]

Battery W: Twin Turbolaser (Energy): 1-5/6-10/---, 4/5+/1/2, Carronade; Increased Hits.

[AB] [ABC] [ABD] [CE] [DF] [EF]

Battery X: Heavy Ion Cannon (Energy): 1-3/4-6/7-9, 1/6+/1/5, Slow-Firing; No Hull Damage; Ignores Shields.

[ACE] [BDF]

Battery Y: Triple Ion Cannon (Energy): 1-2/3-4/5-6, 4/5+/1/3, No Hull Damage; Ignores Shields.

[AB] [AC] [BD] [HJ] [IK] [EF]

Battery Z: Quad Lasers (Energy): 1/2/3, 3/4+/1/1, Anti-Fighter.

[GHI] [GHI] [ACE] [BDF] [JKL]

Special Equipment: Cargo (200); Carrier (1316 Capacity; Launch: 4, Recover: 2); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice); Hyperdrive; Stormtroopers (24).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 24, Maintenance: 23/6 ~ 4, Defensive Value: 16, Anti-Ship: 14, Anti-Fighter: 18, Command Rating: 9, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 14; Hyperdrive.

I had 206 Space Units left over and gave this ship Cargo (200). If you prefer, you can use this space for 6 Vehicle Bays and 4 Tractor Beams which I left out (the Tractor Beams in this background setting do not work like the ones in Armada, they just draw things closer or push them away). You could even use the extra space to give the ship 4 more Shield Facets which would raise it's Combat Rating to 2096 CR and raise its VBAM Cost to 25 and its VBAM Defensive Value to 17.

I substituted Stormtroopers for Marines at the same cost. The Capacity is 1316 because that is 14 Flights of T.I.E. Fighters. This may seem like a lot, but in this background setting, a warship is supposed to be simply a big box of fighters. Now, I should give you something to put in that box.

T.I.E. Fighter: Size: 6, Speed: 12. Attack: 6+, Defense: 1; ROF 3; Impact 2; Capacity (94).

T.I.E. Interceptor: Size: 6, Speed: 14, Attack: 6+, Defense: 1; ROF 3; Interceptor; Capacity (63).

T.I.E. Bomber: Size: 6, Speed: 8, Defense: 2; Capacity (66).

Fighter Mode: Attack: 6+; ROF 3; Bomber.

Striker Mode: Attack: 3+; ROF 3; Impact 2; Bomber.

T.I.E. Avenger: Size: 6. Speed: 15, Attack: 5+, Defense: 2; ROF 3; Impact 2; Capacity (166).

Advanced T.I.E. Fighter: Size: 6, Speed: 13, Defense: 3; Capacity (209).

Fighter Mode: Attack: 6+; ROF 3; Impact 2.

Striker Mode: Attack: 6+; ROF 3; Impact 3; Damage 3.

Lambda class Shuttle (Breacher): Size: 6, Speed: Attack: 6+, Defense: 2; Rof 3; Capacity (60).

Assault Shuttle (Breacher): Size: 6, Speed: 10, Attack: 6+, Defense: 3; ROF 3; Double Damage; Capacity (125).

Stormtrooper Transport (Breacher): Size: 6, Speed: 10, Attack: 6+, Defense: 3; ROF 3; Capacity (89).

Assault Gunboat: Size: 6, Speed: 10, Attack: 6+, Defense: 3; ROF 3, Impact 2; Double Damage: Capacity (155).

Missle Boats: Size: 6, Speed: 6, Attack: 6+, Defense: 1; ROF 3; Impact 2; Damage 2; Capacity (87).

Skipray Blastboat: Size: 6, Speed: 11, Attack: 6+, Defense: 3; ROF 3, Impact 3; Double Damage; Capacity (200).

These are my best interpretations of the printed sheets that I found for these.

The standard loadout for an Imperial class I Star Destroyer was listed by one source as 1 Lambda class Shuttle, 1 Stormtrooper Transport, 1 Assault Shuttle, 7 T.I.E. Fighters, 2 T.I.E. Interceptors, and 2 T.I.E. Bombers.

2010-10-20 22:29:50

Arr J-3 (Starlifter) class Type 2 Freighter. All systems are TL +4.

Type 6 Cargo Pod (0 CR)

Hull (1, 3, 5): 20 19 18 17 16* 15 14 13 12 11* 10 9 8 7 6* 5 4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): ---.

Shields (3, 4): ---.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (4500: 6 Cargo Cans); Clamps: Size 20 (4) and Size 5 (72); Critical Hit Save (3+); Damage Control (4 dice).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 4, Maintenance: 4, Defensive Value: 11, Anti-Ship: 0, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 8, Command Cost: 4; Supply (4).

Loaded J-3 (Starlifter) class Type 2 Freighter (66 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 25(8) 24 23 22 21(7)* 20 19 18(6) 17 16* 15(5) 14 12(4) 11* 10 9(3) 8 7 6(2)* 5 4 3(1) 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Shields (3, 4): 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 6 6 6 5 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 3 2 2 2 1 1 1.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment:Cargo (4510: 10 Capacity and Type 6 Cargo Pod); Clamps: Size 8 (4); Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (5 dice); Engine Governors (5); Fixed Shield Emitters (8 Shield Facets); Marines (1); Shuttles (1: 8 Capacity; Launch: 5, Recover: 3); Teleports (1); Warp Drive.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 13, Maintenance: 5, Defensive Value: 15, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 10, Command Cost: 4, Basing: 1; Carrier; Supply (4); Warp Drive.

Unloaded J-3 (Starlifter) class Type 2 Freighter (38 CR).

Hull (1, 3 ,5): 8 7 6 5*4 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 21 19 16 14 11 8 6 3.

Shields (3, 4): 18 16 14 12 9 7 5 3.

Facets: F: 2, FP: 1, FS: 1, AP: 1, AS: 1, A: 2.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (10); Clamps: Size 8 (4); Critical Hit Save (5+); Damage Control (2 dice); Engine Governor (5); Fixed Shield Emitter (8 Shield Facets); Marines (1); Shuttles (1: 8 Capacity; Launch: 2, Recover: 1); Teleports (1); Warp Drive.

VBAM Statistics: Cost: 7, Maintenance: 11/6 ~ 2, Defensive Value: 5, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 5, Command Cost: 2, Basing: 1; Carrier; Warp Drive.

2010-10-20 19:45:11

Kay G-6 (Catapult) class Model A Cargo Transport. All systems are TL +4.

Model H Cargo Pod (0CR)

Hull (1, 3, 5): 26 25 24 23 22 21* 20 19 18 17 16 15* 14 13 12 11 10 9* 8 7 6 5 4 3* 2 1.

Engines (1,2): ---.

Shields (3, 4): ---.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (6000: 8 Cargo Cans); Clamps: Size 26 (4) and Size 5 (96); Critical Hit Save (2+), Damage Control (5 dice).

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 6, Maintenance: 16/3 ~ 6, Defensive Value: 14, Anti-Ship: 0, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 10, Command Cost: 4; Supply (6).

Loaded G-6 (Catapult) class Model A Cargo Transport (87 CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 33(11) 32 31 30(10) 29 28 27(9)* 26 25 24(8) 23 22 21(7) 20* 19 18(6) 17 16 15(5) 14 13* 12(4) 11 10 9(3) 8 7 6(2)* 5 4 3(1) 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 3(20) 3 3(19) 3 3 3(17) 3 3 3 3(15) 3 2 2(13) 2 2 2(11) 2 2(10) 2 2 2(8) 2 1 1 1(6) 1 1 1(4) 1 1 1(2) 1 1.

Shields (3,4): 10(21) 10 10(20) 10 9 9(18) 9 8 8(16) 8 7 7(14) 7 7 6 6(12) 6 5 5(10) 5 4 4(8) 4 4 3(6) 3 3 2(4) 2 2 1(2) 1 1.

Facets: F: 1, FP:2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Cargo (6000: 1 Model H Cargo Pod);Clamps: Size 11 (4); Critical Hit Save (2+); Damage Control (5 dice); Engine Governors (7); Fixed Shield Emitters (10 Shield Facets); Marines (1); Passengers (10); Shuttles (2: 16 Capacity; Launch: 5, Recover: 3); Teleports (1); Warp Drive.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 17, Maintenance: 7, Defensive Value: 19, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti_Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 11, Command Cost: 5, Basing: 2; Carrier; Supply (6); Warp Drive.

Unloaded G-6 (Catapult) class Model A Cargo Transport (63CR).

Hull (1, 3, 5): 11 10 9 8* 7 6 5 4* 3 2 1.

Engines (1, 2): 20 19 17 15 13 11 10 8 6 4 2.

Shields (3, 4): 21 20 18 16 14 12 10 8 6 4 2.

Facets: F: 1, FP: 2, FS: 2, AP: 2, AS: 2, A: 1.

Weapons (5, 6): 1: ---, 2: ---, 3: ---, 4: ---, 5: ---, 6: ---.

Special Equipment: Clamps: Size 11 (4); Critical Hit Save (4+); Damage Control (3 dice); Engine Governors (7); Fixed Shield Emitters (10 Shield Facets); Marines (1); Passengers (10); Shuttles (2: 16 Capacity; Launch: 3, Recover: 2); Teleports(1); Warp Drive. This ship has 5 extra Space Units to use for auxilliary systems.

VBAM Statistics:

Cost: 7, Maintenance: 7/3~ 3, Defensive Value: 7, Anti-Ship: 1, Anti-Fighter: 0, Command Rating: 6, Command Cost: 3, Basing: 2; Carrier; Warp Drive.

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