• Registered: 2006-07-24
  • Posts: 158

Topic: Divine star base

(9000) Divine-class Cloch na Thintri Starbase
Hull: 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
Engines: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Shields: 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Weapons: 1:X 2:Y 3:Y 4:Z 5:Z 6:
X:"Silent Embrace"  10/20/30, 1/3+/4/4
Piercing +2; Starship-exclusive
[GHI][GHI][GHI][GIJK][GIJK]
Y: "Black Moon Fang 2"  10/20/-, 2/3+/1/1
Piercing +1; Carronade; Range-Based ROF
[GHI][GHI][GHI][GHI][GHI][GIJK][GIJK][GIJK][GIJK]
Z: "Soul Lance 2"  10/20/30, 2/3+/1/1
Piercing +1; Minimum Range; Inv. Range-Based ROF
[AB][AB][AB][AB][AB][AB][AB][AB][ABCDEF][ABCDEF]
Special: Stealth; Armor Plating; Fire Control; Marines (206); Teleporters (14); Carrier (2328); Cargo (994)

[SU=97] TYPE: Seeker
SIZE: 9
SPEED: 15
ACCURACY: 3+
DEFENSE: 0
OPTIONS
=Continuing damage
=Increased ROF-3
=Piercing+1

First Starbase I have ever made, this is designed to revolve around and protect a planet. I made it to have as few weaknesses as possible (outside of the STUPIDLY HIGH cost), thoughts?

  • Registered: 2006-01-17
  • Posts: 740

Re: Divine star base

Wow!
Thoughts?
I would not attack a planet protected with one of these, but would blockade it. 
Or I would take a lot of small ships with short range weapons and 5 pts of screens that would face the station.  Since this station won't move, build up speed from a distance and make sure that when you are 31 hexes away that you are going speed 30 and then move from out of range to very close.  And then blast away with these cheap ships with short range weapons.  It could work.  8-) 
Stations are more vulnerable to this type of attack than ships which can move....

  • Registered: 2006-07-24
  • Posts: 158

Re: Divine star base

Hence the drones, the screens wouldn't work well vs it. And with 24 packs of drones, it can take a few ships with it. But yeah, the fast ships would be effective, the problem would most likely be simply slowing down after that to try dealing the finishing blows while I repair myself.
But I think your strategy would be the most effective one vs this, expecially with the sheer amount of small ships you can get with 9000 points

  • Registered: 2009-11-06
  • Posts: 92

Re: Divine star base

I'd accelerate asteroids at it.

  • Registered: 2006-07-24
  • Posts: 158

Re: Divine star base

Sergeant Crunch wrote:

I'd accelerate asteroids at it.

Would be interesting if we had such rules, but we could fire at them, depending on the size of the asteriods though the crew would either laugh and fire or cry like babies and evac.

  • Registered: 2022-11-15
  • Posts: 1,424

Re: Divine star base

PSYCO829 wrote:
Sergeant Crunch wrote:

I'd accelerate asteroids at it.

Would be interesting if we had such rules, but we could fire at them, depending on the size of the asteriods though the crew would either laugh and fire or cry like babies and evac.

I be wondering if Dan would entertain us with 'Asteroid rules'......
big_smile

  • Registered: 2022-11-14
  • Posts: 86

Re: Divine star base

How to kill a 9000 pnt base with 35 pnts of ships.

Start 466 hexes away with 1 Flotilla of these.

Type: Sir Isaac Newton-class  RELATIVISTIC ROCK FLOTILLA (35)
Ships: 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
Engines: [TL0] 1
Shields: [TL0] 0
Weapons: [TL0]
Battery V: C+ Rock Gun, 1/2/3, 3/2+/3/3, Piercing +3
[g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g]
[g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g] [g]
Ammo: 1@

Accelerating at 1 hex per turn, in 29 turns, they will arrive at range 31 moving at 30 hexes per turn. The next turn, at range 1, you should, on average, get about 150 hull hits. yikes  (Yes, I did take into account the armor.)

If nothing else, this should be a reasonable stand in for an asteroid strike. :twisted:

*Edited for a better name.

  • Registered: 2006-01-17
  • Posts: 740

Re: Divine star base

It is to defend against threats like this that all Bases may want to consider having a... cloaking device(!)
When these accelerating ships are 31 hexes away, the base can go into cloak the next turn and when the swarm arives, there is nothing to shoot at <LOL>.  Any thoughts?

  • Registered: 2022-11-14
  • Posts: 86

Re: Divine star base

Take 60 of them and space them out so they arrive 1 per turn. If the base stays cloaked, I send the rest of my fleet to destroy whatever the base is supposed to be protecting.

Or I could build a large wooden badger.... tongue

  • Registered: 2006-07-24
  • Posts: 158

Re: Divine star base

What would stop me from sending out my drones and intercepting you? <.<

  • Registered: 2022-11-14
  • Posts: 86

Re: Divine star base

A couple of thousand points of escort ships with lots of anti-fighter weapons. You have a 9000 pnt Starbase. I can build a LOT of ships for 9000 pnts.

That and ships can out run fighters/strikers given enough time to accelerate.

  • Registered: 2006-07-24
  • Posts: 158

Re: Divine star base

bekosh wrote:

A couple of thousand points of escort ships with lots of anti-fighter weapons. You have a 9000 pnt Starbase. I can build a LOT of ships for 9000 pnts.

That and ships can out run fighters/strikers given enough time to accelerate.

I'm not sure if your purpose for posting here is for you to say you "one upped" me, if you're trying to be annoying, or if you're just a troll.
Its a starbase I designed for fun. You're designing ships that are quite simply STUPID specifically to defeat it. You win the battle, I walk away shaking my head and making a note never to play such a silly person ever again.

  • Registered: 2022-11-14
  • Posts: 86

Re: Divine star base

Not trying to troll or anything. You posted a maxed out over the top design so I posted a maxed out over the top design specificaly to counter it. Or were you looking for a "reasonable" response?

Frankly, I find that type of min/max design process to be annoying and no fun to play. I prefer fleets/ships with flaws and warts that leave you asking "How the hell am I supposed to use that?"

Sorry if you got annoyed. That was not my intention.

  • Registered: 2006-07-24
  • Posts: 158

Re: Divine star base

bekosh wrote:

Not trying to troll or anything. You posted a maxed out over the top design so I posted a maxed out over the top design specificaly to counter it. Or were you looking for a "reasonable" response?

Quite frankly I would never use this, I posted it to amuse my Uncle (Beowulf) and others with a ridiculously over the top useless space station that will never see play. Like, ever. Infact it was supposed to cost 9001 so I could exclaim "ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND" when asked how expensive it was, I have no idea why i dropped that one point.

bekosh wrote:

Frankly, I find that type of min/max design process to be annoying and no fun to play. I prefer fleets/ships with flaws and warts that leave you asking "How the hell am I supposed to use that?"

The real space station I play costs 3k and has screens to protect it. It can die quite easily if left unprotected.

bekosh wrote:

Sorry if you got annoyed. That was not my intention.

I overreacted, a combination of being sick and a remarkably crappy day at work. You have my deepest apologies.