If you're going to do a dungeon crawl game, please include some nice, complete design-your-own rules for monsters, traps and treasures.  That way we can customize to our hearts' content, and build dungeons that work with our own minis collections.  After all, not like you'll be selling figs yourselves, right?

Besides, high-utility customizable design rules are pretty much what we've all come to expect from MJ12 products anyway... 

Rich

I'd be up for doing some fantasy art for a project like this - someone please let me know should it get underway!

Josh

here's what I had as an idea during the Frag--ZOMBIES! game at Die Con today.
Initiative -- something to do with dice or pillbugs
Combat --
     Players roll to hit each other
     players roll to save
     players die
respawn players come back at the start of the dungeon with full stats

basically it's a fantasy frag.

I haven't gotten farther than that yet.

art would be cool.

based on hexes (of course) but could use squares i guess as a last resort

um.  monsters can spawn randomly or be "set" in a certain room.

I like cheese.
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How bout an opposed roll? Attacker and defender roll, compare successes?

Anything but roll, hit, roll, wound, roll, armour? I can overlook it for Starmada but I really don't like it. It consumes time that could be spent racking up kills, strategizing, or drinking stuff with caffeine (and maybe some alcohol) in it...

And I know you guys hate using the same mechanic twice, but wouldn't ARES basic system work well for this, or is it too complicated?

Howabout FUDGE dice.........

I'd like a dungeon bash game as well. No specific comments on the game mechanics, but if it's going to use a board it should be squares, maybe off-set squares so that you can still touch six opposing squares at once. Hexes are only good for running in one dimension. You know, you can go up or down easily...or on diagonals to the side. And the game should have free printable dungeon boards right on the web site. And of course it has to support all of my favourite figures. 

Actually, I like the idea of a dungeon style game that can be played by two to six players, where there isn't a dedicated GM....... Basically a random dungeon ( using tiles, I have several links for various free ones) and random tables of monsters. I love the idea of roaming around and smashing things, but in normal RP, I end up as GM 99% of the time.  I would love to contribute to this......

John

Well, we could take the Zombies approach, where each tile turns up inhabited by a set number of monsters. Now, do we want the game to be adversarial, where each player might be entrusted to moving the monsters against the other players at the end of his/her turn, or co-op, where the monsters move "automatically" according to simple rules?

What if there were cards? Say a Bless deck and a Curse deck. Each player gets some and can play them on other payers? This could add some monsters and alter gameplay. Maybe a setup where you can't play either type of card on yourself... OR you can but only if you play a card of the same deck on another player as well... or something?

The mechanic from the Dungeoneer game (and it works pretty well) has one deck with both blesses and curses and as heroes move about the dungeon, I gain both types of points.  the bless points are used to find equipment and helpful gear (all cards have a certain point value on it).  The curse points are used by other players to affect other players.

now I like the idea of a deck to simulate moving around in a dungeon, but how are you going to account for the crazy miniatures/monsters that people are going to include.  Also, a 'customizable deck sounds too much like a collectable game which might turn off too many players.

-Bren

Well, largely monster encounters come from some sort of threat matrix/ dice system. Bless and curse are perks and pains to trade. Maybe you can up the threat level of the next room , maybe you can up the treasure, what I'm really after here is that each player has a small number of cards and can only play them on others. The cards bend circumstance rather than controlling the game, but MOSTLY it's about game theory. Do you screw the other guy over in the hope that he'll be put back a few points, or do you fear his revenge?

I don't think they should make or break a player except under the most perfect conditions, but they should enable players to influence who is in the lead without direct character-on-character violence. Then whoever ends up with the most points in a session gets a little bonus or two for the next game... and for the next game ONLY.

I am thinking a simple experience chart with a number of combat dice based on level, where each would count as a hit or miss.... hits would do one wound per successful die roll..... with a base of 3 classes.
Fighters, sneaks, and casters.....  (I need better names, but for now, these will work) Casters would be path based, with options, to include the summoning of a minion. (Dark Path mages could summon a skeleton minion, ect.)

I have the basic dice work done, and am working on the armor modifications....but I think I know how that is going to work.......

This game is going to be fast and simple, but with a lot of variety. Monsters will be worth a set experience level, and the experience points can be spent on either levels (adding more hit points and combat dice) or skills (adding mods to help elsewhere)

A skilled adventurer would know how to utilize both. Skills are going to be set up on skill trees, so that really advanced skills have lesser skill pre-requisites. Spells would be handled as skills, with the same restrictions. Casting a spell would require that you succeed in a dice roll with enough successes (some fighter skills could be set up this way, and almost count as "spell trees")

That's where I am at the moment.

John